The Shooting in Oregon..

"You are ignoring this user", is so much more pleasant than trying to reason or rationalize with someone that can do neither.

I can't convert an empty dried up piece of clay and wasting time trying is fruitless. Just ignore him as he has shown no interest in looking at evidence or proof of what we all have at one time tried to endeavor to show him the light.

I have an X wife that is the exact same way as he is. You can't rationalize or reason with some people. It's been a lot better for me personally to hire someone to read her bat crazy emails and respond once a day than to read them and get mad. Setting up the auto ignore feature here will do the same for each of us.

Just hover over the persons name click on it, Go to profile, then under their name and information there is a choice to ignore that user. Click on that and enjoy the ignorance of not seeing what they are saying. If you choose.
 
Originally Posted By: littledawgOriginally Posted By: TnslimThis entire deal was all about our government doing an illegal land grab for $$$. As in any illegal act all one has to do is follow the money to find out the truth and you can darn well bet you will never get the truth from our government. At no point in time since our Constitution was drafted has the corruption in our government reached such levels. I'd be willing to bet anything that the uranium mining deals brought about by the Clinton's are the leading factor in this fiasco. Money and power are basically the same thing.....if you have one you are guaranteed to have the other. Again, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

I think ya need to run to the Dollar Store and pick up some tinfoil for a new hat.

Now sonny boy, don't be rude or Mommy will spank your butt and send you to bed with no supper.
 
That was quite a price to pay to get a conversation started on the issue of federal overreach. My hope is that it gets the ball rolling on putting a spotlight on BLM policies. My guess is the Feds know well that all things fade with time. Some nut job will shoot some place up, some cop will shoot some black guy, or some rag head will blow something up and this will become a non-issue. Shame, because these guys really had some valid gripes.
 
Originally Posted By: tnshootistAt one time or another we have all had to ignore a buzzing fly while on stand. JMO


Yeah, but normally I just reach out and smash the aggravatin little bastard and make him go away, permanently!
 
Originally Posted By: woodguruOriginally Posted By: Orneryolfart357A Guy from a different Hunting site arrived in Ore. this morning. He shared this picture of Lavoy's Memorial where He was gunned down.



If someone wants to learn more about Lavoy, google "One Cowboy stands for freedom" if you are so inclined.

The confederate flag sort of says it all...








Typical embicilic liberal B_S_, exercising judgementalism on the basis of color of one's flag, stereotyping, profiling... commonly performed by internet trolls while suggesting those that bear that flag are racist, uneducated, subordinates, while preaching understanding and tolerance out of the other side of their head. Please do tell us exactly what all that flag says about LaVoy Finicum, or any one of the protestors in Oregon, woodsnot. Since you know absolutely NOTHING about any of them. That is, after you get done whining about the personal attacks, because no one in a predominantly conservative group agrees with your asanine liberal opinions on things, and you persist on expressing them, to the point of extreme annoyance. If you don't want to be attacked, go play in a predominantly liberal forum where others are interested in your opinions and want to listen to them, or sit quietly in the corner.

No one enjoys being told what an ignorant [beeep] they are on a daily basis; NO ONE here is the least bit supportive of your position, and no one has any desire to engage you in discourse, civil or not; it is thus obvious your mission here is to create discontent, stir the pot; break down the cohesive nature of this little group of conservatives; fractionalize it, disband it by whatever means possible. If you can't piss everyone off and make them leave, then you irritate them to the point they attack, in attempt to cause them to be banned. And, obviously you are paid to do so, since no one is stupid enough to stay where they are so unwanted. Even the lowliest of starving dogs is smart enough to leave your trash can, if kicked enough times; but you, while trying to convince us all how intelligent you are, are not.

EARTH to WOODSNOT's keepers... He's failing! There are more people in the Church now, than there was when he started. More and more members who are not a church goers stop in to rebuke spewed ignorance that shows up on the recent posts board, and many stay. Much like his hero with gun sales, he's a driving force in Church participation. Demote him and transplant him to the Barbie forum, Gays Who Are Lactose Intolerant forum, or some other place far far away, where they'll love him!
 
Originally Posted By: Rocky1Originally Posted By: tnshootistAt one time or another we have all had to ignore a buzzing fly while on stand. JMO


Yeah, but normally I just reach out and smash the aggravatin little bastard and make him go away, permanently!

Yep. Thats my natural reaction as well. But,when they stay out of arms reach...
 
Nice bunch,



The arrested militiamen of the Oregon refuge occupation have had extensive previous run-ins with the law – and a history of anti-government protests that federal officials are now using against them in court.

In recent filings in federal court in Portland, prosecutors have detailed the criminal histories of the 11 people facing felony charges for their involvement in the armed occupation of the Malheur national wildlife refuge, which began 2 January and continues to drag on this week with no end in sight.

The men’s rap sheets include cases of domestic violence, illegal firearm possession, terrorist threats, resisting arrest and drug crimes, according to the court records.

Last Tuesday, militia leader Ammon Bundy was arrested on a remote highway in rural Harney County, occupation spokesperson LaVoy Finicum was shot and killed by police and a number of high-profile participants in the rightwing standoff were taken into custody.

The protesters, who say they seized government buildings to protest federal regulations of public lands, now face charges of impeding federal officers from discharging official duties, which could carry prison sentences of up to six years.

Last week, US magistrate Stacie Beckerman ordered Ammon, his brother Ryan Bundy and three others to remain in custody without bail.


Some of the men, including Ammon, have appealed the bail denials, and a series of new detention hearings are scheduled this week starting Tuesday.

Prosecutors have cited many of their past offenses, arguing that it would be too dangerous to release them while the case moves forward.

Jason Patrick, a 43-year-old Georgia resident and one of the last holdouts at the refuge, faced charges in August 2014 of “making terrorist threats” after he “threatened to kill everyone” inside a Georgia municipal court building, according to prosecutors.

Patrick posted bond in that case and was released, but agreed not to possess weapons – a condition that he has since violated. He was photographed with guns during the occupation, prosecutors noted.

Joseph Oshaughnessy, a 45-year-old Arizona resident now facing charges for his role in the occupation, has previously been arrested for disorderly conduct, domestic violence and drug offenses, according to court records. Oshaughnessy has argued that he was not a member of the militia, but was trying to keep the peace at the refuge.


Brian Cavalier, a 44-year-old Nevada man, has a series of felony convictions that restrict his access to firearms but has nonetheless consistently possessed weapons, prosecutors said. He often referred to himself as Ammon Bundy’s bodyguard.

Duane Ehmer, the Oregon occupier frequently photographed with his horse at the refuge, is a convicted felon banned from possessing firearms – but he, too, was carrying a pistol when he was arrested last week, according to the records. Prosecutors said he also recently posted a photo on Facebook with the threatening caption: “The only way to win a war is to kill enough of the enemy that they do not want to fight anymore.”

After he was arrested last week, Ryan Payne, a 32-year-old Montana man, “claimed to have an absolute duty to prevent the federal government from continuing to manage lands” and “claimed a right to use force to oppose an unlawful arrest”, prosecutors said. He has also repeatedly been involved in armed efforts to oppose the federal government, according to records.

Pete Santilli, the conservative radio host who live-streamed the occupation until his arrest, previously bragged on YouTube about refusing to turn in his guns in violation of a restraining order filed against him. Santilli, who is a vocal supporter of the Bundys, has argued that he was a journalist covering the protests.

Ryan Bundy was convicted of obstructing police in 2008 and again interfered with an arresting officer in 2015, prosecutors wrote in the filings. In the latter case, he reportedly had to be restrained by three court bailiffs attempting to take him into custody on a failure-to-appear warrant.

In arguing against bail for Ammon Bundy, prosecutors cited his repeated social media statements decrying the federal government and his resolve to fight.

Officials on Friday did agree to release Shawna Cox, the one woman arrested at the occupation. She has to wear an ankle bracelet.

Relatives of the jailed Bundys said they had little faith the court proceedings in Portland would be fair or that the judge would grant the men bail.

“You’re not going to get any justice in a federal court,” said Carol Bundy, wife of Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who led the 2014 standoff with the government and on Monday called on the Oregon occupiers to stand their ground.

“They have unlimited power, or they feel that they do,” she continued. “You go in their court with their law and their judges … There will be no justice in there.”

Although Ammon Bundy has said from jail that it is time to continue the fight in the courtroom, his sister Bailey Logue, 24, said she wasn’t confident that a court battle would accomplish much in the Bundys’ fight against federal overreach. “We have to win it out here. If it could’ve been won in the courts, we wouldn’t be here.”
 
I have a confederate flag, dixie horn on my truck and I'm going rabbit hunting tomorrow with a group of black guys... Guess that makes me a racist. Huh ?
 
Originally Posted By: Rocky1Originally Posted By: woodguruOriginally Posted By: Orneryolfart357A Guy from a different Hunting site arrived in Ore. this morning. He shared this picture of Lavoy's Memorial where He was gunned down.



If someone wants to learn more about Lavoy, google "One Cowboy stands for freedom" if you are so inclined.

The confederate flag sort of says it all...








Typical embicilic liberal B_S_, exercising judgementalism on the basis of color of one's flag, stereotyping, profiling... commonly performed by internet trolls while suggesting those that bear that flag are racist, uneducated, subordinates, while preaching understanding and tolerance out of the other side of their head. Please do tell us exactly what all that flag says about LaVoy Finicum, or any one of the protestors in Oregon, woodsnot. Since you know absolutely NOTHING about any of them. That is, after you get done whining about the personal attacks, because no one in a predominantly conservative group agrees with your asanine liberal opinions on things, and you persist on expressing them, to the point of extreme annoyance. If you don't want to be attacked, go play in a predominantly liberal forum where others are interested in your opinions and want to listen to them, or sit quietly in the corner.

No one enjoys being told what an ignorant [beeep] they are on a daily basis; NO ONE here is the least bit supportive of your position, and no one has any desire to engage you in discourse, civil or not; it is thus obvious your mission here is to create discontent, stir the pot; break down the cohesive nature of this little group of conservatives; fractionalize it, disband it by whatever means possible. If you can't piss everyone off and make them leave, then you irritate them to the point they attack, in attempt to cause them to be banned. And, obviously you are paid to do so, since no one is stupid enough to stay where they are so unwanted. Even the lowliest of starving dogs is smart enough to leave your trash can, if kicked enough times; but you, while trying to convince us all how intelligent you are, are not.

EARTH to WOODSNOT's keepers... He's failing! There are more people in the Church now, than there was when he started. More and more members who are not a church goers stop in to rebuke spewed ignorance that shows up on the recent posts board, and many stay. Much like his hero with gun sales, he's a driving force in Church participation. Demote him and transplant him to the Barbie forum, Gays Who Are Lactose Intolerant forum, or some other place far far away, where they'll love him!



And you are undoubtedly a staunch supporter of the right to fly the confederate flag regardless of what it stands for, which is slavery.

Wipe the drool off of your keyboard and ignore me like an intelligent person who doesn't agree with someone would do.

These guys are hard right nut jobs and you know it. Most of the people supporting Bundy don't have a clue what the issue is, they come paying lip service to a bunch of freedom based gibberish.

One cowboy stands for freedom, the only freedom he stood for is to not allow himself to be put in jail, he got exactly the freedom he wanted.
 
Originally Posted By: tjonesNice bunch,



The arrested militiamen of the Oregon refuge occupation have had extensive previous run-ins with the law – and a history of anti-government protests that federal officials are now using against them in court.

In recent filings in federal court in Portland, prosecutors have detailed the criminal histories of the 11 people facing felony charges for their involvement in the armed occupation of the Malheur national wildlife refuge, which began 2 January and continues to drag on this week with no end in sight.

The men’s rap sheets include cases of domestic violence, illegal firearm possession, terrorist threats, resisting arrest and drug crimes, according to the court records.

Last Tuesday, militia leader Ammon Bundy was arrested on a remote highway in rural Harney County, occupation spokesperson LaVoy Finicum was shot and killed by police and a number of high-profile participants in the rightwing standoff were taken into custody.

The protesters, who say they seized government buildings to protest federal regulations of public lands, now face charges of impeding federal officers from discharging official duties, which could carry prison sentences of up to six years.

Last week, US magistrate Stacie Beckerman ordered Ammon, his brother Ryan Bundy and three others to remain in custody without bail.


Some of the men, including Ammon, have appealed the bail denials, and a series of new detention hearings are scheduled this week starting Tuesday.

Prosecutors have cited many of their past offenses, arguing that it would be too dangerous to release them while the case moves forward.

Jason Patrick, a 43-year-old Georgia resident and one of the last holdouts at the refuge, faced charges in August 2014 of “making terrorist threats” after he “threatened to kill everyone” inside a Georgia municipal court building, according to prosecutors.

Patrick posted bond in that case and was released, but agreed not to possess weapons – a condition that he has since violated. He was photographed with guns during the occupation, prosecutors noted.

Joseph Oshaughnessy, a 45-year-old Arizona resident now facing charges for his role in the occupation, has previously been arrested for disorderly conduct, domestic violence and drug offenses, according to court records. Oshaughnessy has argued that he was not a member of the militia, but was trying to keep the peace at the refuge.


Brian Cavalier, a 44-year-old Nevada man, has a series of felony convictions that restrict his access to firearms but has nonetheless consistently possessed weapons, prosecutors said. He often referred to himself as Ammon Bundy’s bodyguard.

Duane Ehmer, the Oregon occupier frequently photographed with his horse at the refuge, is a convicted felon banned from possessing firearms – but he, too, was carrying a pistol when he was arrested last week, according to the records. Prosecutors said he also recently posted a photo on Facebook with the threatening caption: “The only way to win a war is to kill enough of the enemy that they do not want to fight anymore.”

After he was arrested last week, Ryan Payne, a 32-year-old Montana man, “claimed to have an absolute duty to prevent the federal government from continuing to manage lands” and “claimed a right to use force to oppose an unlawful arrest”, prosecutors said. He has also repeatedly been involved in armed efforts to oppose the federal government, according to records.

Pete Santilli, the conservative radio host who live-streamed the occupation until his arrest, previously bragged on YouTube about refusing to turn in his guns in violation of a restraining order filed against him. Santilli, who is a vocal supporter of the Bundys, has argued that he was a journalist covering the protests.

Ryan Bundy was convicted of obstructing police in 2008 and again interfered with an arresting officer in 2015, prosecutors wrote in the filings. In the latter case, he reportedly had to be restrained by three court bailiffs attempting to take him into custody on a failure-to-appear warrant.

In arguing against bail for Ammon Bundy, prosecutors cited his repeated social media statements decrying the federal government and his resolve to fight.

Officials on Friday did agree to release Shawna Cox, the one woman arrested at the occupation. She has to wear an ankle bracelet.

Relatives of the jailed Bundys said they had little faith the court proceedings in Portland would be fair or that the judge would grant the men bail.

“You’re not going to get any justice in a federal court,” said Carol Bundy, wife of Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who led the 2014 standoff with the government and on Monday called on the Oregon occupiers to stand their ground.

“They have unlimited power, or they feel that they do,” she continued. “You go in their court with their law and their judges … There will be no justice in there.”

Although Ammon Bundy has said from jail that it is time to continue the fight in the courtroom, his sister Bailey Logue, 24, said she wasn’t confident that a court battle would accomplish much in the Bundys’ fight against federal overreach. “We have to win it out here. If it could’ve been won in the courts, we wouldn’t be here.”

Fine representatives of what it means to be extreme right
 
I have no doubt thats true about those guys. The sad thing though is I would trust them more than I would the other side. I am sure there is good ones and bad ones in both bunches.
The trouble is those with badges don't have much independence in the decisions being made. They seem to do what they are told mostly.They don't have much choice.
Not to equate the protesters with the men at Lexington,but I would bet they were described as thugs who had brushes with the law as well.
 
Another thing that I see, is that there is probably not a lot of background checking going on with Guys wanting to join these groups. Maybe with Oathkeepers but many more groups may just accept anyone. In any group like this you will always find bad apples. Same is true for Law enforcement as well. JMO
 
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Originally Posted By: woodguruOriginally Posted By: Rocky1Originally Posted By: woodguruOriginally Posted By: Orneryolfart357A Guy from a different Hunting site arrived in Ore. this morning. He shared this picture of Lavoy's Memorial where He was gunned down.



If someone wants to learn more about Lavoy, google "One Cowboy stands for freedom" if you are so inclined.

The confederate flag sort of says it all...








Typical embicilic liberal B_S_, exercising judgementalism on the basis of color of one's flag, stereotyping, profiling... commonly performed by internet trolls while suggesting those that bear that flag are racist, uneducated, subordinates, while preaching understanding and tolerance out of the other side of their head. Please do tell us exactly what all that flag says about LaVoy Finicum, or any one of the protestors in Oregon, woodsnot. Since you know absolutely NOTHING about any of them. That is, after you get done whining about the personal attacks, because no one in a predominantly conservative group agrees with your asanine liberal opinions on things, and you persist on expressing them, to the point of extreme annoyance. If you don't want to be attacked, go play in a predominantly liberal forum where others are interested in your opinions and want to listen to them, or sit quietly in the corner.

No one enjoys being told what an ignorant [beeep] they are on a daily basis; NO ONE here is the least bit supportive of your position, and no one has any desire to engage you in discourse, civil or not; it is thus obvious your mission here is to create discontent, stir the pot; break down the cohesive nature of this little group of conservatives; fractionalize it, disband it by whatever means possible. If you can't piss everyone off and make them leave, then you irritate them to the point they attack, in attempt to cause them to be banned. And, obviously you are paid to do so, since no one is stupid enough to stay where they are so unwanted. Even the lowliest of starving dogs is smart enough to leave your trash can, if kicked enough times; but you, while trying to convince us all how intelligent you are, are not.

EARTH to WOODSNOT's keepers... He's failing! There are more people in the Church now, than there was when he started. More and more members who are not a church goers stop in to rebuke spewed ignorance that shows up on the recent posts board, and many stay. Much like his hero with gun sales, he's a driving force in Church participation. Demote him and transplant him to the Barbie forum, Gays Who Are Lactose Intolerant forum, or some other place far far away, where they'll love him!



And you are undoubtedly a staunch supporter of the right to fly the confederate flag regardless of what it stands for, which is slavery.

Wipe the drool off of your keyboard and ignore me like an intelligent person who doesn't agree with someone would do.

These guys are hard right nut jobs and you know it. Most of the people supporting Bundy don't have a clue what the issue is, they come paying lip service to a bunch of freedom based gibberish.

One cowboy stands for freedom, the only freedom he stood for is to not allow himself to be put in jail, he got exactly the freedom he wanted.


And you have the audacity to call ANYONE ignorant....

Feel free to educate yourself by any means OTHER than the internet.

I dare you.

Oh, and while we are at it, care to post some facts based on true, delineated and supported research? No? Didn't think so.

Still waiting for you to man up. Can you? Didn't think so on that either..


Still waiting.

 
Originally Posted By: woodguruAnd you are undoubtedly a staunch supporter of the right to fly the confederate flag regardless of what it stands for, which is slavery.

Wipe the drool off of your keyboard and ignore me like an intelligent person who doesn't agree with someone would do.


And, you obviously have no dammed clue what the Confederate Battle Flag stands for! PERIOD!! Nor what the Civil War was truly fought over.

At least you got the last half of that [beeep] right, an intelligent person would ignore your stupidity, and you are back on Ignore!
 
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If enough of us quote this post and keep it current maybe one of our mods will take some action and finally get rid of Woodfart!!!!!.
 
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Tonight would be great!

If enough of us quote this post and keep it current maybe one of our mods will take some action and finally get rid of Woodfart!!!!!.

I'm in, it's really a shame that so many members have to set up an ignore option to prevent being offended and fighting mad over an incompetent socialist pig. And sadly the ignore function doesn't always work. Frequently someone quotes the town fool and you see it anyway. Enough is enough.
 
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