The word "Harvest" sounds really stupid

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ric

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i guess we done gone pc in the huntin "community.
using the word "harvest" for kill really erks me and some
other hunters i play poker with.
what a stupid f_____g term for blasted, killed, dusted, shot,
zapped, etc.
before i ever "harvest" any critter i'll quit huntin.

i hear it all the time on outdoor channel and others.
ric the killer
 
ric,I agree with you BUT,being a trapper and knowing all about the anti's bs I also use the word harvest because hunters know what I mean and its less threatning to non-hunters or tree huggers.
I read (on another post)10%of the world are hunters,10%are non-hunters so we need to "educate" the other 80%.I hope these numbers are close but thats just my 3cents worth.(I'm from AR.)
 
Ric, I happen to agree with you, I don't use the word harvest. I usually say kill, got, take or took something. Todays world is totally phoney, where are the real men of this country? You don't want to know what I really think about that last statement, Good Hunting
 
I much prefer the word "Harvest" and will more frequently use the word "take" when writing about making a kill. Sure I could use more graphic terms but why. We are all hunters here we know what killing is all about, we've seend the blood and gore. So I use the more PC words to describe the kill. Funny I still stand when I pee, I still find the womanly shape attractive and I don't find my manhood to be any bigger after being graphic and just a little bit disgusting. But maybe thats just me.............
 
AWWwww, it's always good to find someone who don't agree, I seem to do it alot lol. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Ric, I agree with you in the sense that it reminds me of a professor in college who, on the first day of the semester, told our clas of 400 students,"Occasionally, a vial oath whill spurteth forth from my mouth, But, I firmly believe that if it looks like s#it and smells like s#it, I'm gonna call it s#it!"

Now, having said that, I talk about hunting and trapping with a lot of people - sportsmen and non-sportsmen alike. Which term I use - kill, harvest, dispatch, take, whack - is determined wholly by my audeince. Kill works with hunters but can be distracting to the non-killers out there. Just a policy that works for me.

On a positive note, you do see a lot more footage on TOC and other channels including the impact shot rather than cutting away to the hunter, hearing the shot, then the next thing you see is some dilrod standing over a dink of a basket buck.
 
Words I like:
Murder, slaughter, gut, skin, evicerate. :eek: /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif :eek:

I'm with Lance, use words appropriate for the situation and company. My language on the job site is different than when I am talking with the neighborhood kids. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
When in Garrison, North Dakota several years back a local sporting goods store owner asked me if I was having any luck hunting geese. I replied 'yes I have killed a bunch'. He told me that I should say 'harvest' not 'kill'. I told him that 'farmers harvest crops, I kill geese'

Randy
 
Harvest is just a classy way of describing the outcome of a successful hunt.

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, it means:

"In the The result or consequence of an activity."

But in regard to predators and predator hunting, it does not seem to fit. It is better used when talking about a deer crop, or fur crop.

After all, a coyote doesn't "harvest" a deer, he kills it!

titanium
 
i harvested 2 hours today huntin.

one day something will harvest me.

see harvey harvest a dumb deer.
harvest harvey harvest.

i would just harvest to have a 50 cal rifle for yotes.

ole billy harvested jack, his best friend last night cause
jack tried to harvest some time wif billy's wife.

i heard billy give him a warning once.
he told him quote " Jack, stay away from my wife or your gonna
get harvested."

Jack the Ripper now goes by jack the harvester.

do you think OJ is guilty of first degree harvest?

can i say kiss my ass to that word?
i guess the whiskey pint i harvested is kickin in.

ric the harvester
 
I have avoided this thread for a couple of days now and made the mistake of looking at it tonight against my better judgement. I am going to try and engage you on your statement without you feeling I am attacking you if I can. These posts many times do not provide the benefit of inflection, tone or facial expression like a conversation over a beer might have. Subsequently sometimes emotions get worked up when they really should not.

I read this and went to another thread and was drawn back to it and read it again and something about it just made me uncomfortable. I fully understand why a testosterone laden hunter might object to passive words like that in a hunting camp but I have a harder time understanding why one might choose to use a volley of words that would allienate themselves and possibly put themselves on the defensive with others who might otherwise have been more open to consider their opponents argument with the perception that they are not trying to get in their face.

Having worked a bunch in my lifetime with youth groups, I have tempered my statements to parents about their childs lack of discipline to be able to get the parents on my side. What I might really have wanted to say is "You should spank the crap out of this little brat" but that would just get me branded dangerous to society.

Ric, I hope you will consider the larger picture about what is really important in our battle to save what we love to do by spending your attention and energy on things that help the cause rather simple word semantics. Speaking of semantics, was that dynamite you "blast" them with? Do you Dust them with Pesticides or just how did you zap them? With a taser possibly? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I have used that word Harvest on occasions when I thought it appropriate and at other times I have used other less benign words, some of which have been mentioned in this thread. Believe me in your poker game I would not pussyfoot around with sissy words like Harvest. I would use some of Moose57's words /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Just so you won't think I am picking on only you Ric, I want to ask Titanium a question also. Why do deer become a Harvestable crop when you "kill" them or other predators become a crop when you strip the hyde off of them, which follows "Killing" them? You had me saying "you go man" in the first half of your post Titanium and then you left me scratching my head with that crop statement. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Can we say we harvest a coyote "crop" under the banner of predator control? Just food for thought.

I hope nobody gets a wedgey over my post. I am just debating an interesting subject by taking the devils advocate role. If your blood pressure spikes Ric, I owe you a mouthcall or a tape of your choice just as peace offering. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I use the word Harvest in two settings. One, when addressing non hunters who might be on the fence about hunting, and trying to show them that the world we live in is man made and not wild as it was in the past (at least here on the east coast), and that the deer need to be controled or harvested for not only their own good, but the good of the human community. Harvest seems to be a word they can understand and relate to.

The second time I use the word harvest is when I am talking to other hunters about the management of a certain population of animals to differentiate between what hunters take and what nature takes. In other words, hunter harvest is a number and winter kill, predation, and other factors are grouped together to make another number. Since we have little control over winter kill, predation and the other factors, the only way to manage growth or force a decline in a population is to manage hunter harvest. It just helps to split the two types of mortaility factors up with different words.

Now when freinds ask me how the hunting was that day, if I was successful I tell them that I got my deer or I got a couple of coyotes or I got my turkey, and that seems to be easy enough to take for them even if they aren't hunters.

Is it PC to use the word Harvest? I think it may be. But I temper my beliefs with respect for my sport, the people I address and the animals I hunt.
 
GS,
Since Ric must have fallen asleep after the whiskey harvest you can just send that mouthcall to me.

Spentshell /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
The word harvest? I almost never use it. GS a very good choice of words and some good points. I have taken my boy Cody, on overnight doves hunts since he was three years old. On his first day of Kidnergarden the teacher asked if there was any one that would like to share with the class what they did over summer vecation. Cody stands in front of the class and tells all that he went on a dove hunt with his dad, and his job was to fetch the doves that dad shot. If they were still alive his job was to pull the heads off to kill them. After hearing this The teacher sent home a note with Cody that she would like to have a talk with me. The next day a few other parents sent litters to the teacher wonting to know wat was being tought in her class. I explained that every thing Cody said was true and we hunt to the letter of the law, that you do not let a wounded bird suffer. Pulling off doves heads was Codys choice if he wonted to do it. It was his call. Lets not make this into something its not.And I hope you dont have a problem with that. I am happy to say we had no other problems.
 
Doghunter, I just moved from Elsinore this year. My son had the very same experience in the 5th grade. He wrote a report on his dove hunting trip with me. His teacher told him he was a murderer and threw his report in the trash. I had a serious talk with the school principal. The teacher was transferred out of the LEUSD and I dropped the lawsuit.
My son is in the 8th grade now, and is no longer as open and personable as he used to be. He doesn't trust people like he once did. Early admission to the real world, I guess. BTW, that episode didn't change his attitude towards hunting in the least. But he sure knows who the hell bunny-huggers are, though.
 
i ain't offended at all. you we very diplomatic.
i gots real thick shin.
fmj's cant get thru.

the whiskey was a joke.
i gotta get up at 5am in hopes of
killing a yote or 2 in the mornin.

its just somethin about "harvest" that hits a raw nerve
with me.
who cares if we get more hunters cause we say harvest.
more hunters means less yotes to hunt around here.
if they don't want to hunt-fine-but i ain't gonna
go pc--never ever.
the left and the pc crowd{leftist}can forever kiss my grits.

I HOPE EVERYBODY AT LEAST 20 MILES AWAY FROM MY
AREA KILLS A DOUBLE AND STRAPS EM ACROSS THE HOOD FOR A
RIDE THRU THE LOCAL LEFT AREA.
RIC
 
I think I might enjoy hunting with you Ric. I respect your opinion on this and wouldn't ever want to take a way your right to express it. Great story Doghunter. I helped my son do a project in the 5th grade where we went out and video taped him calling and trying to shoot a grey fox. Some of the girls wouldn't talk to him for days after that but some of the boys came up to him and asked if they could go along next time. Luckily the teacher did not make an issue about it.
 
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