Those damm 788's

Originally Posted By: JLJ223Those guns are top dollar around here, if you happen to see one in a shop the price usually starts around $550.

Prices seem to be going up around here too. If you get one in average condition, its around $450 and up. Very few have the original sights still on them.
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760I was quite excited to see a 788 in 222 on the gun library rack at my Cabela's...till i looked at the tag...some jag-off rechambered it to 223.
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You do know that you can reverse that procedure....right.....

That's coming from a guy that owns a 700 SPS in 222....
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I enjoy reading this post 788 is a great shooting rifle. strange thing had a friend 25 years ago that had one in 222 that had been reamed to 223 rem it would put one on top of the other. makes me wander if its the same rifle . but we are way over in North Carolina. My friend has been past for 10 years or so who knows things have their way of moving around.
 
Originally Posted By: RePeteOriginally Posted By: pahntr760I was quite excited to see a 788 in 222 on the gun library rack at my Cabela's...till i looked at the tag...some jag-off rechambered it to 223.
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You do know that you can reverse that procedure....right.....

That's coming from a guy that owns a 700 SPS in 222....
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Yeah, I am well aware of your dandy 222, and could have done that to this I suppose. But there were other issues that wouldn't have made it all that good of an idea, to me anyways.
 
Just a heads up to you 788 owners, before you buy, carefully check the lugs as there have been problems with cracking, gauling. Many have worn extractors, that fail to extract, and there are no replacement parts. A gunsmith fix is a AR type and machining which runs around $150. Magazines run around $50-$75 if you can find one. Bolt handles have come off, but usually this is a problem with a hot load, and a hammer.

My old 222 mostly lives in the safe. Will I sell it? NO

Would I buy another? No, I have several 700s that shoot just as well, if not better. If a 700 needs a part there easy to find.
 
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Originally Posted By: ninehorsesJust a heads up to you 788 owners, before you buy, carefully check the lugs as there have been problems with cracking, gauling. Many have worn extractors, that fail to extract, and there are no replacement parts. A gunsmith fix is a AR type and machining which runs around $150. Magizenes run around $50-$75 if you can find one. Bolt handles have come off, but usually this is a problem with a hot load, and a hammer.

My old 222 mostly lives in the safe. Will I sell it? NO

Would I buy another? No, I have several 700s that shoot just as well, if not better. If a 700 needs a part there easy to find.

Well chosen words.

I own several 788's that I've had for years, and they will probably stay in my safes, but I have no desire to buy any additional ones simply because $500+ spent for a gun today can be far more wisely spent elsewhere. A rear locking bolt that has been known for years for bolt compression is not the best combination to use with high pressure gun powders used to build high velocity cartridges.

Sadly a bunch of 788 owners have learned that after using a 2x4 to discover even more additional weaknesses in the rifle. In their day they sold for around $89 each, and even then they were seen as a low cost entry level rifle for the occasional shooter and hunter.

Any offended groupies - Feel free to fire away.
 
All of mine are shooters. That is what I bought them for. Never had a problem. I voiced my opinion your entitled to yours.
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760Originally Posted By: RePeteOriginally Posted By: pahntr760I was quite excited to see a 788 in 222 on the gun library rack at my Cabela's...till i looked at the tag...some jag-off rechambered it to 223.
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You do know that you can reverse that procedure....right.....

That's coming from a guy that owns a 700 SPS in 222....
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Yeah, I am well aware of your dandy 222, and could have done that to this I suppose. But there were other issues that wouldn't have made it all that good of an idea, to me anyways.


Yea....if it's in poor shape that's another story but I wouldn't be afraid to spend a few bucks for a simple set-back and rechamber if I really wanted a 788 in 222 and the price was right....a 222 barrel should last forever and a rechamber would clean up a rough chamber and/or and throat erosion.....course it wouldn't be an original in the box collectable but I don't care much about that kind of thing.....
 
Ninehorses and Winny Fan, that is good info to know. Thanks for posting.

Still wish I had that old .222 back, but now realize you have to look a gift horse in the mouth.
 
Same here, loved that rifle.Originally Posted By: Brad PhillipsI had a 788 in .222 once, sold it in a moment of complete stupidity. Man I wish I had that rifle back.
 
If you stay with cartridges like the 222 and 223 Rem with the small .378" bolt face, you'll likely never have headspace issues or bolt compression issues. My opinion from seeing a bunch of them and from owning one of each.

If you jump to cartridges with a .478" bolt face that give considerably more rearward bolt thrust, issues might result. I once had one in 22-250 that could not handle a load that manuals showed to be about 85% of max. The bolt would lock up, and after several times of this happening, I tried a rubber mallet to free the bolt a little quicker.
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Bingo... Off came the bolt handle that resulted in a trip back to Remington to get it brazed back on.

After that experience, I shot a load that was below 85% max of published loads and used the rifle quite a bit over a couple of years. After maybe 1K rounds through the rifle, I started to see incipient case head separation. A trip to a smith showed excessive head space had developed in the rifle. Its the only rifle I've ever had the problem develop in after a reasonable amount of shooting. Some other models of rifles I own have been shot far more times than this particular 788 had been shot without a hint of problems.

My experience is not unique for the .478" bolt face 788 rifles. There used to be a link on the internet where this was a common 788 complaint, but I haven't been able to locate it to at least attempt to show that what I've said isn't just my "opinion" to those who are true believers.

I still have two 788's with the .478" bolt faces, but they get shot very little, and when I do shoot them, I use very safe hand loaded cartridges which to some extent defeats the purpose of the two cartridges involved. If you use the rifles as hunting rifles without a significant amount of cartridges ran through them, issues may never occur except with warmer loads that might result in significant bolt compression. YMMV, as they say.
 
I did have a 788 in 22-250 that would not shoot hot loads. It caused a very sticky bolt almost to the point of having to force it open. Lighter loads worked fine. If I used loads anywhere near max, I had bolt issues.
 
There is a NIB 222 magazine for sale ($45) on 24hcf classifieds if anyone is looking. Also a front sight. Not mine just passing on the info!
 
For $300-$350 (which is what they're worth) I'd buy all I could get however the selling price has risen to the $500-$600 range for common calibers which is crazy. Rem 700 BDLs can be bought for that amount of money or less.
 
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