VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

Hmmm, that's strange,sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.I've always taken Bohunter seriously,but then I think most conservatives here do.You rimmy?Well I'm sure you're a nice guy,but I'm sure glad I don't have to spend holiday dinners with you.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerFirst of all what is your point of trying to mislabel me as a liberal? Do you think it makes your case stronger or are you playing to the crowd?

There are basically Liberals, Conservatives, Libertarians, Socialists, Marxists and Communists...Where do you fit in?

Quote:Doesn't the fact that he's spent a great deal in legal fees to avoid releasing docs make you wonder what's in the docs just the least bit?



How much do you think Obama has spent to, as you say, “avoid releasing docs” and why are some people asking for so many irrelevant documents? Last I heard it was $ 1.7 million keeping these irrelevant documents from being made public. I believe that all of the requested documents could prove O is a fraud or worse. Common sense would dictate that you wouldn't spend that kind of money unless the documentation would be proof of your deceptionThis looks more like a fishing expedition than a question of being a natural born citizen. Obama posted a copy of his COLB, which was met with a pile of accusations of forgery and fraud. You do recognize that during that time period persons born out of the Country could get a COLB. People have distorted Hawaii law to try to disavow the legitimacy of the COLB. The birthers on the other hand have nothing and are trying to use court discovery to do their investigation for them. You have to get to the meat of the question somehow, you don't really expect O to be honest about any of it do you?



Quote:(If there's nothing there) It would seem that all the political advantage would be to slam his detractors and make them appear silly by releasing all the pertinent docs, right?



The birthers have done a great job of making themselves look silly without Obama’s help. Why should he make himself look weak by caving in to their demands? Now answer me this why have all the lawsuits been filed by a few third rate lawyers whose clumsy efforts have lead to over 60 dismissed cases? Why hasn’t some sharp and aggressive young lawyer jumped on this to make a name? How many other candidates thru the years have ignored request for documents like these?

O makes himself look weak every passing day. How much do you estimate he has spent in getting 60 cases dismissed? You can look it up if you think it would strengthen your argument. All you do is ask questions without ever providing any substance in your answers. Your argument is less than weak, very repetative and boring.


Have a good day
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Why do YOU think B. Hussein Obama has refused to release the documents in question?


BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST! THAT SIMPLE!
 
Quote:First of all what is your point of trying to mislabel me as a liberal? Do you think it makes your case stronger or are you playing to the crowd?

I humbly apologize. Silly me, I didn't realize there were any conservative Obama supporters.

The question remains unanswered though. Why do YOU think Obama has spent so much time and effort in avoiding the release of these documents (especially if they are "irrelevant")?

As an (conservative
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Quote:Last I heard it was $ 1.7 million keeping these irrelevant documents from being made public. I believe that all of the requested documents could prove O is a fraud or worse. Common sense would dictate that you wouldn't spend that kind of money unless the documentation would be proof of your deception

$ 1.7 million and of course you can document that and show that the money was spent to keep “these irrelevant documents from being made public”.

Quote:You do recognize that during that time period persons born out of the Country could get a COLB.

People keep saying that but I have yet to see anyone show how that COLB would show a Hawaii place of birth for someone born outside of Hawaii and then there’s the problem of proving that someone did this with Obama’s COLB.

Quote:You have to get to the meat of the question somehow, you don't really expect O to be honest about any of it do you?

If your case is dependant on discovery, you don’t have a case.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:Last I heard it was $ 1.7 million keeping these irrelevant documents from being made public. I believe that all of the requested documents could prove O is a fraud or worse. Common sense would dictate that you wouldn't spend that kind of money unless the documentation would be proof of your deception

$ 1.7 million and of course you can document that and show that the money was spent to keep “these irrelevant documents from being made public”.

Quote:You do recognize that during that time period persons born out of the Country could get a COLB.

People keep saying that but I have yet to see anyone show how that COLB would show a Hawaii place of birth for someone born outside of Hawaii and then there’s the problem of proving that someone did this with Obama’s COLB.

Quote:You have to get to the meat of the question somehow, you don't really expect O to be honest about any of it do you?

If your case is dependant on discovery, you don’t have a case.


You did it again.
 
Originally Posted By: nmleonAs an (conservative
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Where has Obama spent a lot of time and effort on these cases? It’s the people filing the cases that are spending time and effort. So if you’re asking why Obama’s has gone to the effort to request that the cases against him be dismissed, I would guess it’s the same reason anyone would protect themselves from a series of crank lawsuits.
 
Originally Posted By: jumprightinitYou did it again.
I see you don't have the answers. That's about what I expected. So why should anyone take your speculation serious?
 
Quote:Where has Obama spent a lot of time and effort on these cases? It’s the people filing the cases that are spending time and effort.

You don't think it has taken/is taking any time or effort (or money) to fight all these (16?) lawsuits? Really?



Quote:So if you’re asking why Obama’s has gone to the effort to request that the cases against him be dismissed, I would guess it’s the same reason anyone would protect themselves from a series of crank lawsuits.

Actually I was asking why he would let the law suits be filed at all since it's obviously expensive in money, time, and effort to have attorneys file for the dismissal of even frivilous lawsuits.

Wouldn't it be easier (and more rational) to just put the documents out into the public (as McCain did)?

Hense the request (which you are still ducking) for you to come up with a rational reason.
 
Quote:Wouldn't it be easier (and more rational) to just put the documents out into the public (as McCain did)?

When did McCain put these documents out into the public?

Quote:Actually I was asking why he would let the law suits be filed at all since it's obviously expensive in money, time, and effort to have attorneys file for the dismissal of even frivilous lawsuits. into the public?

He posted his COLB and that didn’t stop the lawsuits. What documents do you think would stop the lawsuits?
 
The law firm handing these cases is the Seattle-based mega firm Perkins Coie.

Jump is quite correct, the money Obama has used to fight producing documents isn't secret, it is public info that WND and other news agencies have reported:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=114202

BTW, Rimmy, last summer I posted on a Korean-born girl who was adopted by US nationals who lived in HI and she was given a COLB stating she was born in HI.

I am more persuaded the the 1961 Honolulu newspaper birth announcement of bouncing baby Barry than I am the COLB, it isn't worth the paper it is computer printed on.

Show me the 1961 long form. The original document, the way Palin and McCain did.
 
McCain's long form Birth Certificate, he released it when he decided to run for POTUS because HE WASN'T HIDING ANYTHING!
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Originally Posted By: Rim_Runnerjava What’s the source of your image? It looks like the one from Hollander v. McCain. The image used in Hollander v McCain was not posted by John McCain but was used in a lawsuit against him. It is also possible that the Hollander image is a forgery.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/02/the-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/


Forgery? Why on earth would McCain forge a BC saying he was born in sovereign Panamanian territory? If one was going to take the trouble to forge something would not it make more sense to create a doc that would HELP one's case? I mean, it isn't like his dad and grandfather were famous US Navy admirals whose locations at the time were recorded in the media...oh, wait. They were.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerNo one has said that McCain is the source of the image. So are you saying that McCain posted this image?

http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/obama-birth-certificate/2009/07/22/id/331784

"During the 2008 presidential campaign, GOP nominee Sen. John McCain quickly released his birth certificate when liberal bloggers raised questions about his eligibility to be president. McCain was born at a military hospital in Panama..."

"...As it stands, Obama is the only president in history whose birthplace is unknown to the public – a fact that would be stated on the actual birth certificate. Interestingly, his family has mentioned two different hospitals in Hawaii as the place of birth."
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerSo are you backing away from the image you first posted?

Not at all, Rimmy, I simply offered answers to the questions you asked...seemingly to change the subject from Obama's refusal to release his 1961 birth certificate.
 
You claimed that McCain made his BC public and then posted the image you came up with. Then you quoted an article from new max. The problem is the article says he was born at a military hospital your image shows he was born off base. So I ask you again what was the source of the image you posted?
 
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