VERY QUIETLY OBAMA'S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerYou claimed that McCain made his BC public and then posted the image you came up with. Then you quoted an article from new max. The problem is the article says he was born at a military hospital your image shows he was born off base. So I ask you again what was the source of the image you posted?

McCain's BC is widely circulated on the internet and has been since he released it. I got the image last summer and have posted it here in similar threads responding to you numerous times. So what? It is ludacris to suggest that McCain would forge a document to show himself born on sovereign Panamanian soil. But, again, McCain isn't the subject. He released his BC and he was born in Panama.

Obama has not released his 1961 BC and his failure to do so has resulted in +$1 million legal fees paid to Perkins Coie.

Rational people find this behavior very, very odd. It makes us wonder what he is hiding.

In the end I doubt we will ever know.

The US electorate made a huge mistake--one that polls show many Obama voters now deeply regret. Subsequent Republican wins, such as the unthinkable recent victory in MA, corroborate this buyers' remorse.

Obama has already proven himself unable to inspire and lead, he is another Carter, only without Carter's roots to America, and America has woken up to its huge error. The House and Senate are going to shift and he is going to be blocked from further Marxist mischief. In 2012 we will restore a grownup to the office and Obama can go back to Chicago and hang out with terrorist pal Bill Ayers and the good Rev Wright and the rest of his America-hating posse.
 
Originally Posted By: youngdonJava, Doesn't your head hurt from banging it on that wall??

Naw, I enjoy Rimmy. He's a character
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Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerOriginally Posted By: jumprightinitYou did it again.
I see you don't have the answers. That's about what I expected. So why should anyone take your speculation serious?

I don't know rr, I guess the 'anyone's' can read what you Post and that vs what I post and decide what makes sense and what doesn't. You want to take a poll?
 
Java,
Doesn't former White House Communications Director Anita Dunn who Praised Mao,
husband works for the Perkins Coie law firm?
 
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Originally Posted By: Bryan_EJava,
Doesn't former White House Communications Director Anita Dunn who Praised Mao,
husband works for the Perkins Coie law firm?

YES, her husband, Robert Bauer, is with Coie; your point is very well taken. IMHO.
 
Reading rimmy's posts is like watching a dog chase it's tail...there's no sense to what it's doing but it sure as h*ll is intent on chasing that tail.
 
i'm thinking if your mother is a united states citizen.no matter where your born, your a united states citizen.just like mccain he was born out of the country,but his mother was a united states citizen.
 
Quote:McCain's BC is widely circulated on the internet and has been since he released it. then you should have not trouble providing a link that can show McCain’s BC and verify that McCain posted it.

Quote:Obama has not released his 1961 BC and his failure to do so has resulted in +$1 million legal fees paid to Perkins Coie. All that WND has shown it that the money was paid to Cole. What legal services were provided is speculation on
WND’s part

http://legalblogwatch.typepad.com/legal_blog_watch/2009/08/birthers-lawyers-billables-and-obama.html

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/whats-obamas-birther-legal-bill


Quote:Rational people find this behavior very, very odd. It makes us wonder what he is hiding. Rational people know when an argument is based on speculation and lacking in facts.
 
Originally Posted By: nmleonThat was an interesting little side show, but I'm still waiting for that rational explanation RR.
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This whole issue is a sideshow. The COLB is all the evidence needed to prove Natural Born Citizenship. To back that up, there are the birth announcements and confirmation from the DOH. As far as your question, I am yet to be convinced that Obama has spent a lot of money, time or effort hiding his documents. Why have the birthers spent far more money, time and effort in trying to get documents that have no bearing on Obama’s eligibility?
 
Originally Posted By: coyote in eyei'm thinking if your mother is a united states citizen.no matter where your born, your a united states citizen.just like mccain he was born out of the country,but his mother was a united states citizen.

Sorry but what you think doesn't change the law.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerOriginally Posted By: nmleonThat was an interesting little side show, but I'm still waiting for that rational explanation RR.
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This whole issue is a sideshow. The COLB is all the evidence needed to prove Natural Born Citizenship. To back that up, there are the birth announcements and confirmation from the DOH. As far as your question, I am yet to be convinced that Obama has spent a lot of money, time or effort hiding his documents. Why have the birthers spent far more money, time and effort in trying to get documents that have no bearing on Obama’s eligibility?

Blah, blah, blah of course the documents have a lot of bearing on the imposters eligibility.

Did you know that he also has 16 different Social Security Numbers? That is usulally associated with fraud.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_RunnerQuote:McCain's BC is widely circulated on the internet and has been since he released it. then you should have not trouble providing a link that can show McCain’s BC and verify that McCain posted it.

I already did post a Newsmax article (above) expressly stating that McCain released his BC.

Here is ANOTHER one:

http://www.newsmax.com/Ruddy/Obama-birth-certificate/2009/12/12/id/341849

"When Sen. John McCain was questioned about his birth outside the United States in the Panama Canal Zone, he released his birth certificate quickly.

When McCain was questioned about his health, he released 1,500 pages of medical records.

When questions arose about donations to his campaign, McCain put his full donor file, even names he didn’t have to disclose, online for anyone to see."

John McCain was forthcoming, whereas your man refuses to let the public see his information. You seem to suggest McCain is just as scummy as Obama, but there just isn't evidence of that. News articles cite his having released his BC and copies of it are widely available, so that dog just don't hunt, sorry.

You cannot and you have not offered a single, logical reason for Obama to conceal his 1961 BC. You have dodged, parried, and done curlicues to change the subject and avoid answering the tough questions, but to a rational mind it makes no sense to pay exorbitant legal fees to keep this document under wraps--to do so defies logic, UNLESS, of course, one is hiding something.

If you want an insight as to why so many of us are PO'ed about this issue let me clue you in: Guys like most of us here get up every day and work our butts off to support our families and then pay taxes to support the lazy and the immoral. We play by the rules and are held accountable when we step outside the lines. When we see some elitist, spoiled little wussy like Obama getting away with his nonsense then it boils our blood. The fabric of being an American is that we are all equal in the eyes of the law and to see some little creep like this who got ahead in life without ever taking a risk and creating a business or even ever working at a real job, a guy who has virtually nothing in common with the typical American man, get away with skirting doing what is right makes me, for one, VERY hacked. I expect much more of a leader, even a Democrat.

The effete elites can disparagingly call me a "birther" or a "tea bagger" all they want to, but I suspect that if we could magically transport into the year 2010 the men who actually founded this country that they would be asking Obama the same questions I am.
 
Quote:News articles cite his having released his BC and copies of it are widely available, so that dog just don't hunt, sorry.

If the copies are so widely available link to one. The fact that a couple of News Max articles claim that he released his BC without any details as to where and when, doesn’t say much. After all Java you have set a standard of proof. When Obama posts a scan of his COLB and state officials and birth announcements back up the document, you don’t think that it’s enough but you accept the mention of McCain's BC in News Max as rock solid evidence. All thru our discussions you have applied a different standard of proof for Obama’s eligibility. I’m sure you have your reasons for doing that but the courts aren’t going to look at it that way. Eligibility has nothing to do with your parents politics or lifestyle. You are obviously not satisfied with Obama’s job performance, that’s well within your right but his performance has nothing to do with his eligibility and I have yet to see any proof that he isn’t eligible. As far as the McCain BC issue, it has little or nothing to do with Obama’s eligibility and I have no doubt that McCain is an NBC. The issue of McCain’s BC does have my curiosity going because I have seen conflicting claims about when and to whom McCain released his BC to.
 
Originally Posted By: Rim_Runner Why have the birthers spent far more money, time and effort in trying to get documents that have no bearing on Obama’s eligibility?

Rimmy, you have asked an interesting question. why are the "birthers" trying to get the documents? but the BIG question is why arent those documents being released? if they have no bearing, whats the big deal? the "birthers" shouldnt have any problem getting said documents.
 
Originally Posted By: sweatybettyRimmy, you have asked an interesting question. why are the "birthers" trying to get the documents? but the BIG question is why arent those documents being released? if they have no bearing, whats the big deal? the "birthers" shouldnt have any problem getting said documents.
The way things are right now a political candidate has the same right to privacy as any other citizen. I don’t think any of us want our health, work, financial and other records made public without our permission. So should someone give up that right to privacy when they run for public office? That might not be a bad idea but it would have to be done evenly across the board. I wonder how many people would run if that was a requirement.
 
Quote:I don’t think any of us want our health, work, financial and other records made public without our permission. So should someone give up that right to privacy when they run for public office?

Where on earth have you been for the last 60 years or so Rimmy?

Since FDR "put one over" on the public it's been pretty much de rigueur for at least presidential candidates to release all that info.

If/when they don't, it usually raises a red flag not only with the public but with the media.
 
RR, There is a big difference between a "Private" individual and their 'rights to privacy' and a "Public" figure, whether it is a politician or entertainer...The courts have already decided that, when it comes to investigative reporting...

There are differences in what is "fair game" for news reports and publicity...
 
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