what would be the best coyote gun?

What Chupa and Varminterror are describing is the same principle that drives the Occluded Eye Gunsights, Armson makes one (They explain the concept way better than I can) and I think Trijicon's Bindon Aiming Concept works the same way. It's a function of binocular vision, allowing both eyes to make a "composite" image based on two entirely different views, that works best with non-magnified red dot sights.
It's possible to do with magnified scopes though, you just have to fight the urge to switch your focus to the image in the scope. With magnified optics, you'll lose time, and possibly get confused, as your eyes try to swing into focus for a 4x or 6x viewpoint vs. unmagnified. Also as we age, our eyes do this trick much more slowly.
Barring a brain injury, both eyes have to focus the same; if you switch to your dominant (scope) eye's POV, your peripheral vision goes blurry.

Hope that helped to further muddy the waters on this topic...
 
Chupa, I know what you mean. I usually get the
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when I try to explain my both eyes open shooting style. The best gun phrase I could use to explain it is "co-witness". The reticle floats out there like a holo sight and the left eye puts the wide view into the brain while the right eye inputs the reticle and moves the body to swing on target giving a composite image. I believe the military does this with Night Vision monoculars and Eotech type sites.

I taught myself to do this at a young age practicing with brick after brick of 22LR ammo out of my scoped Marlin 60. When I got it down, I started shooting squirrels on the run with that rifle. It has helped me greatly over the years when it comes to shooting movers with any weapon. The only time you'll see me close my left eye is when I get too much sun on that side and it tends to blurr my sight picture. But, I only close it after my right eye has caught up with the scope and found my target. This style helps with high mag scopes up close, but I will admit, I still prefer something in a 4x-12x or 4x-14x size where I can stay at 4x on stand and go up to 12x for shots on out there. Where I struggle to keep using this style is at longer ranges. When the left eye can't actually see the target like a groundhog at 600yds but my 24x scope can see his head. I get more of a focal imbalance when long range is involved.

Tuck7, hunt what you have for now or take a shotgun if you have one. As mentioned the gun is the least of your worries. Getting these crazy coyotes to show up is much harder than shooting one regardless of your weapon and optics choice. Calling a coyote into gun range for me is a bigger trophy than sniping an unsuspecting one at any distance. If you can get him that close you beat all his senses and that is the trophy. The pelt is a bonus in my opinion
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"co-witness" isn't a bad example of what I'm talking about. To be perfectly honest, I'm not entirely sure that I see both images simultaneously, but if I don't, the transition back and forth is so fast that I can't perceive it.

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I hope I haven't come off as a prick, I'm not really trying to argue about one thing or the other, but rather trying to clarify my technique.

I know I wasn't explaining myself very well, but I'm really glad some other guys that could explain it better than I can have had experience with "co-witnessing", "occuluded eye sites", etc. I call it super-position because that's how my grandpa called it, but it seems to be the same thing.

As far as my eye dominance and my hand dominance, it's kind of a long story. I'm not sure I could say which is which anymore... I'd like to say I'm right handed and left eye dominant, but it's not really fair to say that. The eye and hand that I practice with more for any given task is the eye and hand I'm better with, but I'm pretty proficient at almost everything I do with either hand.

When I first started shooting as a kid, nobody bothered to check for my eye dominance, so my family just taught me right handed (because I write right handed). It wasn't until I was in high school and started shooting handguns that I noticed it felt more natural to shoot them left handed. I had learned about eye dominance by then, and realized that I was left eye dominant. But I'd been shooting for 10yrs right handed, so I didn't switch my long guns, just started shooting pistols left handed.

In college, I started shooting multigun matches, where I would shoot a rifle right handed, drop it, and draw my pistol left handed (kinda complicated for some transitions). I'd use my right eye right handed, and my left eye left handed. Then 3 gun lead to Western 3gun and then Cowboy action shooting, where I REALLY got to train my eyes to switch between dominance (Gunfighter class baby! Twin .44mag Vaqueros barking fire from both hands!).

I'm naturally ambidexterous at most things. I ride bulls professionally, and can ride with either hand. I team rope off a horse right handed, but I rope left handed from my quads when checking cattle (throttle is in your right hand).

I primarily shoot long guns right handed, and handguns left handed, but I'm essentially equally capable either hand (I shot my buck this year at 250yrds with a Marlin 1895 .45-70 left handed, shot my doe with a .30-06 Ruger M77 right handed). I shoot a left handed Mathews Monster (bow) for turkeys and a right handed Bowtech Destroyer 350 set up for deer and 3D matches.

For the record, my hand writing sucks with either hand, but I'm faster and more proficient with my right hand, from practice. I write left handed a bit slower, but about as legibly (mostly from writing left handed on the board while I was TA'ing in grad school while erasing with my right hand). I generally type on my work phone (blackberry with qwerty) left handed, I type on my iphone with my right.
 
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I didn't think you were arguing. Nothing wrong with a little discussion right... I don't mind crossing points & listening to the others POV as long as they are valid & not spraying BS (sorry if being blunt, but thats just the way some end up way much on the net). I'm sure I come off as an azz on the forum alot so no need to apologize for my sake (not sure if you were).

If what you were trying to describe was shooting with both eyes open, it went right over my head. The *focusing with my left eye* got me really off track. Most have to focus to see the in the optic as it's not natural, seeing with the other eye is the easy part (again for most). I understand how if YOUR STILL LOOKING AT THE CROSSHAIRS. I had been thinking about putting iron sights on the left side of my scope otherwise
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Without going through the motion of telling which hand I use when I'm alone
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; I too shoot with both eyes open. Have always without optics. However, I had to teach myself to shoot both eyes open shooting benchrest as it greatly aids in watching flags & conditions. There are other advantages also. Now I even do it when looking through a spotting scope.

Still, I am still very confused (the other way now). How can you only hold 2MOA out to 50 yards *shooting with both eyes open* if still putting the x-hairs were it needs to be. If thats what you were really doing/descibing, then whats the deal? You should be able to do MUCH better, MUCH farther?
 
Originally Posted By: coleridgeStill, I am still very confused (the other way now). How can you only hold 2MOA out to 50 yards *shooting with both eyes open* if still putting the x-hairs were it needs to be. If thats what you were really doing/descibing, then whats the deal? You should be able to do MUCH better, MUCH farther?

I must not be describing it very well at all...

You're right, I CAN shoot "much better, much farther" while "focusing" through the scope with my right eye, with my left eye still open (shooting both eyes open). I'm no long range master by any means, but after an off and on relationship with BR and F-Class competition for the last 15yrs and unlimited P-dogs to throw lead at, I can definitely hold my own.

BUT, I can also focuse with my left eye, keeping my right eye still open, and "co-witness" or let my brain superimpose the crosshairs onto the target, and still deliver "huntable" accuracy. It definitely isn't as accurate as focusing through the scope, but after years of practicing it, it serves me well in a pinch. When I was first taught to use a scope, that's how my grandpa told me to pick up my targets in the scope, focus on them with your left eye, then bring the crosshairs in your right eye on top of the left eye image of the target, then swap focus into my scope. Then I just took it one step further and tried loosing the shot without swapping focus for "gimme shots". It's much less accurate than focusing through the scope, but it's functionally accurate for hunting.

Admittedly, maybe it happens fast enough that once I use that technique to find the target, I don't notice that I drop my focus into the scope (right eye) before I break the shot, but I don't realize it if that IS what I'm doing. All I THINK about is watching the target in my left eye, and bringing the crosshairs in my right eye where I want them, then loosing the shot.
 


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