Who still uses red lights?

I will try to answer you light question as best I can from my experience using Night Eyes and Wicked Lights. I had both still have and use Night Eyes, I never could ID 100% beyond 250 or more yards I was pretty sure by their movements and actions. I always like to get them in close that's just my way.

I at this time have no interest in the night vision or thermal I just like my lights. I also found that going to a bigger objective on a scope helped with ID at a little more distance, my night rig is T/C 243 3-9x50 firedot Vortex. This all works pretty good for me, been after them predators for 15+ years. Hope this is of some help to you, good luck and keep after them.
 
Originally Posted By: hm1996Originally Posted By: jwebster34You are right Kino. I didn't ask about night vision or thermal. I simply asked an easy question about lights. I just wanted an opinion, not a bunch of follow-up questions that didn't address my question. I also wasn't looking for suggestions on other equipment. Then off down the rabbit hold we went (myself included). Just wanted to know what people thought of other lights. Should have been easy. I heard from many people that these forums took off like this and no one wanted to actually address any questions. Thought i would give the benefit of the doubt though. My suspicions were confirmed. To anyone that has acutually said an opinion about a different light than the Wicked lights, thank you.

JWebster, let me backtrack a bit and explain to you that many folks here tried to share their years of experience by pointing out some options which could save you some money in the long run. No one tried to sell you anything; just give you a broader choice in your search for a better mouse trap.

Looks like you are leaning toward the Coyote Light which runs around $380.

DoubleUp, a very experienced night hunter, offered another option for your consideration. While a couple hundred bucks more than the Coyote light, still a lot cheaper than thermal, which you had ruled out in your OP.


Several other comments, by equally experienced night hunters regarding the importance of optic quality in conjunction w/lights, etc. were offered in the spirit of offering the benefit of years of experience, all were in the spirit of being helpful.

Quote:It's pretty apparent no one who has commented has used a good thermal for those saying about identifying a target. This is why I was hesitant to post questions on here. Kind of like every average old guy at the gun club trying to give pointers in skeet shooting when they can barely crack a 20 out of 25 I suppose. Oh well, thanks anyway. I will just keep doing homework and make my own educated decision.

Perhaps a bit of reflection on your part will help you to understand the reaction to your rather brash response and help smooth your (hopefully) long future relationship on PM.

Regards,
hm


I have a good optic to pair with the light. I have tried the day/night scope method and didn't care for it. Wanted to use a light for now while I save for thermal. I mostly day hunt, but occasionally night hunt. Maybe some folks should have read the post better??? That was where i was coming from. Mabe people shouldn't assume research wasn't done on those other topics? I have always told people that asked for an opinion my view in direct response to the question. Guess maybe I was expecting the wrong responses.
 
Originally Posted By: StrobleI will try to answer you light question as best I can from my experience using Night Eyes and Wicked Lights. I had both still have and use Night Eyes, I never could ID 100% beyond 250 or more yards I was pretty sure by their movements and actions. I always like to get them in close that's just my way.

I at this time have no interest in the night vision or thermal I just like my lights. I also found that going to a bigger objective on a scope helped with ID at a little more distance, my night rig is T/C 243 3-9x50 firedot Vortex. This all works pretty good for me, been after them predators for 15+ years. Hope this is of some help to you, good luck and keep after them.

Thank you Stroble. I appreciate the response. It gives me some insight and directly answers the question. I appreciate it.
 
Originally Posted By: old catAfter reading all these posts it is very evident that you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Maybe a lesson to be learned, by the one asking the question.

Tried that before too. Sometimes people need to hear the truth. I thought millennials god a bad reputation for being sensitive and not being able to take criticism. Sheeeesh.
 
I use Wicked Light and have used, Rad Lights,Sniper Hog and Coyote Light. The Coyote Light seemed the brightest to me. They're way more expensive though too.

Changing to white light instead of Red would definitely increase visibility out to further ranges. I like red and green for making eyes shine but I'd rather have a white light for a kill light. Better visibility all around.
 
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Originally Posted By: OKRattlerI use Wicked Light and have used, Rad Lights,Sniper Hog and Coyote Light. The Coyote Light seemed the brightest to me. They're way more expensive though too.

Wicked are the only lights I ever used before and I thought they were decent for the money. A buddy had a coyote light and I thought it was better (just my opinion). That's why I wanted real-world experience with newer lights as technology has changed and many have gone to day/night scopes and thermal. Appreciate your take on it.
 
I have an older Wicked Light so I'm not sure if quality is still the same or if they've changed any. The only time it cuts out is if the battery is low. I bought mine probably 7 years ago so I don't have any experience with newer models. Sometimes quality control changes over time with some things so that may be the case but I can't say for certain.

One of my buddies has a Sniper Hog Coyote Cannon and he really likes it. It's plenty bright and it's a pretty sweet looking light too.
 
I have heard the Sniper Hog lights were bright, too. And they do look cool. Specifically the coyote cannon. I haven't talked to anyone that still uses one. I figured they were good too. I just wasn't sure if any one current brand/model stood above the rest significantly.
 
Originally Posted By: jwebster34I have heard the Sniper Hog lights were bright, too. And they do look cool. Specifically the coyote cannon. I haven't talked to anyone that still uses one. I figured they were good too. I just wasn't sure if any one current brand/model stood above the rest significantly.

I have a Coyote Cannon mounted on a 223 living on a tripod. The Coyote Cannon is a great light but I run a white LED. Can't say how far you might ID with a red LED. I also have three or four SHL 66LRX and two 38LRX. All running white LED's except for one 66 with an ir illuminator bulb. The Coyote Cannon is heavy weighing in at close to two pounds. If memory serves, I think it's 1 pound 11 ozs. SHL makes a good, solid, troublefree unit(s).
 
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Had a nice long reply typed up to this thread earlier that probably had some useable insight into the question at hand, but got busy and didn't it posted. Glad I didn't now. I sure don't mind trying to help a guy out. But having a 50/50 chance of getting berated by the guy I am trying to help because my opinion does not agree with his already established POV, well, I am not interested in that. Good luck OP.
 
Originally Posted By: wildflightsOriginally Posted By: jwebster34I have heard the Sniper Hog lights were bright, too. And they do look cool. Specifically the coyote cannon. I haven't talked to anyone that still uses one. I figured they were good too. I just wasn't sure if any one current brand/model stood above the rest significantly.

I have a Coyote Cannon mounted on a 223 living on a tripod. The Coyote Cannon is a great light but I run a white LED. Can't say how far you might ID with a red LED. I also have three or four SHL 66LRX and two 38LRX. All running white LED's except for one 66 with an ir illuminator bulb. The Coyote Cannon is heavy weighing in at close to two pounds. If memory serves, I think it's 1 pound 11 ozs. SHL makes a good, solid, troublefree unit(s).

Great info thanks
 
Originally Posted By: JTPinTXHad a nice long reply typed up to this thread earlier that probably had some useable insight into the question at hand, but got busy and didn't it posted. Glad I didn't now. I sure don't mind trying to help a guy out. But having a 50/50 chance of getting berated by the guy I am trying to help because my opinion does not agree with his already established POV, well, I am not interested in that. Good luck OP.

No problem I appreciate the honesty. I don't really want any opinions on other subject matter other than what the original post was referencing. Hence the smart remarks. If people have other opinions that's fine, but that's when they should be kept to themselves if they aren't going to answer the question. Pretty simple.
 
I've always considered PM as a gentleman's club compared to all other hunting forums. A place of above average IQ and social skills.

Big egos and big attitudes should be left at the door.

So many good people here you should be humbled and appreciative of those who converse and share information.

I just shake my head at the arrogance of some people.
 
I suppose everyone is right. I should be thankful for all the info and opinions that i wasn't searching for and the advice that people wanted to give that was unwarranted. Sorry for not saying "thanks, but no thanks." I lost my manners somewhere along the line I guess. I see giving people advice in that manner as arrogance, not necessarily my response. I'm wrong again. I will refrain from posting anymore unless it's rainbows and unicorns so I don't hurt any feelings. Again thanks to anyone who actually answered the question and gave real insight to the topic.
 
Gents, I’m going to recommend that we let this go. Everyone has said they’re piece. No sense in beating a dead horse.

I appreciate the civil manner that you have all shown in agreeing to disagree.

Mo
 
jwebster34, I used lights and really liked the first 1 used but the other 1 was even better then I tried this 1 and wow. ID @ 300 no problem wish I could remember which 1 it was.
 
Originally Posted By: jwebster34Identification and detection range were definitely not as advertised and they seemed to lose intensity rather quickly. One of the 403's I had also would shut off intermittently. Just wanted to know if anyone's lights could actually light up an animal at 300+ yards like a lot of them say (some state quite further).

Every Light dealer out there will blow smoke up your but and so will many people on here. You are only going to see what your eyes and optics allow you to see. As we age our eyes allow less light to enter. In your 20's you'll see more than in your 60's. A $200 scope transmits less light than a $1000 scope, lots of variables. The only way to determine which light "throws" further is test them side by side. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. By the way none of that is an opinion.

https://www.predatormastersforums.com/fo...7966&page=1
 
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