Wolves!! I had no idea...

Another fun thought. How is the wolf population going to affect the bear population in the same areas? Spring bear coming out of their winter dens diet consists almost entirely on winter kill large game carcass. Obviously fewer animals in a smaller range and an increased number of scavengers that eat year round.


Wolves absolutely can co-exist with other animals, but only through natural checks and balances. When you have a beta predator elevated unnaturally to alpha status, there is no balance. Protecting wolves so they have NO predators puts them at the tippy top of the food chain. Once their prey is exhausted they'll have no choice to but switch entirely to domestic prey, but by then the scale will have tipped too far to see a recover except over several decades.

Wheeee, science can be fun.
 
I don't know much by I do know this - I'm an Idaho resident and regularly hunted a late season black powder area in the Sawtooth Range. Always had large numbers of elk to to increase your odds of filling the freezer. 3 years ago several packs of wolves moved into the valley. Our first night in elk camp we heard the wolves howling. Next day went out and members of our party found 3 calf kill sites, and wolf tracks everywhere. Elk were gone and the numbers have never come back. Don't hunt that area anymore. These animals have quickly learned the areas that our elk use for calving. They're going to follow the herds and continue to decimate them. For sure our big game numbers will continue to decline and the wolf is certainly one of the major reasons. As soon as our state allowed for purchase of a wolf tag, I was in line like many of my brother hunters. I hope our F&G is allowed to increase the take #'s for this next season. For the #'s we have been allowed to take - well, we've done a pretty good job.
 
I'm on turbos side I personaly "have never even seen a wolf" its hard to say but just be paitent and let them contiue to destroy our wildlife and the time will come when they will call on the predator hunters to do what we had already done once. make the wolf a ver very rare sighting
 
Originally Posted By: NdIndyAnother fun thought. How is the wolf population going to affect the bear population in the same areas? Spring bear coming out of their winter dens diet consists almost entirely on winter kill large game carcass.

NDIndy Check this video link:

http://saveelk.com/wolf_050.htm

It shows a pack of wolves running a grizzly off his kill.
 
I'm new to the Predator Masters.I agree that the wolves have decimated elk in areas we used to hunt. It's hardly worth hunting in some areas anymore. Nature is way out of whack w/wolves here. I think I'll hunt non=wolf areas in south idaho next yeear. Torrow I'm heading to Cabelas to look for another call. Perhaps I should investigate this more? I have a "rabbit squeal" call I used years ago but am looking for something to get started up varmiting again. I understand that electronic calls can't be used to hunt wolves, but what about hunting coyotes with electronic calls in Idaho?

HH928
No. Idaho
 
Doggin Coyotes: I was at two of the kill sights. The 3rd. was described to me. My 2 appeared to be 1st year calves - the other was described as a smaller cow. The ones I found were within 1/4 mile of each other. Tracks around both sites indicated multiple wolves had been trailing a fairly good sized herd of elk.
 
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