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Talked to my brother-in-law last night. I got him into coyote calling while he was out here on a duck hunting trip. He's in NW Wisc. and is frustrated can't seem to get any coyotes to come in but he has called in wolves on five different occasion. I said great take the cammera those pictures would be great. I wish I had those kind of response when I started out.

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Dosen't he have a gun and a good hiding place /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Down in South Central WI there are rumors of them (6) in the river bottoms just a half mile from my front door and 6 pair of breading cougars from Portage to Avoca, about an 80 mi strech. Sure hope a cougar dosent show him/her self cause there is no law, that I can find, on the books so WHAMMY!
 
We have wolves here in Wyo also and they have raised hell with our Elk and The Moose Pop is way down. The only one's that can hunt them is the Guts and Feathers F&G.Dept.JC
 
I don't know why they whould reintroduce them in WI with the population denisity and farm land here leave em in CANADA no offence Canada I'd love to come up and hunt them but they and the cougars reak havoc on the live stock here on one farm I coyote hunt the farmer said he lost 2 calvs and there was no sign of them anywhere and momma wouldnt return to the scene U tell me what it was?
 
AWS - I live in NW wisc. I'm just starting predator hunting. I live in an area that has wolves. I hardly ever hear or see coyote. I've been wondering if wolves dive out the coyotes, do you know?

On the plus side I've seen lots of fox tracks and have seen foxes quite a bit. That's what my intended target is. I hope one day I'll actually be able to shoot one.

What county is your bro-in-law hunting? I'm a bit freeked out about calling in a wolf. Its the only apprehension I have about predator huting and that fear has kept me out of the woods during late night hours. I only hunt in the evening, but I'm trying to get up the courage to hunt at night. I hunt alone.
 
Where I live Wolves are common and now that we have been out hunting more we realize there is even more then we had thought. But wolves do actually cover great distance and packs have large territories. So there is alot of tracks left in the snow. Wolves do not tolerate coyotes. Wolves do tolerate foxes. Coyotes do not tolerate foxes though. In my area deep woods equals wolves and foxes... nearer to town by housing coyotes and a few foxes. I have called in all three species. A small wolf and a large coyote are hard to tell apart sometimes. wolves run with tail slightly up or straight out, coyotes tail hangs down. Just remeber to hold onto your gun tight at nite and wait for the feeling of warm breath on your neck before turning. Try snowshoeing a long ways into a area, hunting until dark and then seen wolves around. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Wolves absolutely will not tolerate Coyotes and will kill them all or drive them out. You will not find Coyotes anywhere near where wolves frequent. Wolves do not tolerate any competition for food and they are VERY territorial. Keep in mind that wolf/human conflicts do not occur very often and wolf attacks on humans is almost non-existant. Especially when compared to the other large predators of North America. Trust me, I am far more leery of cow moose than I am of wolves. Cow moose with calves can be a wee bit pissy at times.
 
At any rate we do not need any damn wolves running around here. There is not enough space and food for them. Reintroduction for the most part is a bad idea. I remember the last trip we took to Yellowstone. We counted only 3 calf elk and 1 calf moose. We saw nearly 200 grown cow elk, but no babies. Moose we saw naw nearly 50 cow moose and only 1 baby. Theese wolves are going to destroy western big game hunting as we know it.
 
elks there was a spot on CNN this morning about the wolves in Idaho and the reduction in the elk herds they were calling for the killing of a least 40 of them but it was upto the Feds to decide. What are the accurate numbers on the wolves or does anyone know for sure how many there?
Mauser
 
Mauser,

Since the reintroduction of wolves their numbers have boomed. Here in Idaho, according to the last paper Fish and Game put out, we have more than the other two states combined, around 700 some animals. Area I have hunted elk in for 20 years has gone to sxxt in the last five due to wolves. Every morning we would go out, you would find new wolf tracks in you boot prints from night before. The decision to reintroduce wolves was truly one of the biggest bonehaed moves U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has ever done!!! THE BEST WOLF IS A DEAD WOLF!!!
 
When in doubt, remember the SSS rule. Has always worked for me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Jeb
 
I think you guys are a little periniod of wolves(no disrespect).

Wolf attacks on humans are very unlikly ,infact most attacks are wolfdogs not pure wolves.

I have lived in an area with wolves my hole life and the only person that has to worry about wolves are sheep herders that pasture there flock to far away from the barn yard.Even then a good donkey will keep a pack at bay.That is what all the farmers in my area have gone to.

As far as a wolf killing a farm animal in the barn yard then not comming back to finnish very very unlikly.

Not that it could not happen anything can happen ,but a wolve does not like to be around humans ,and it would never leave a kill unconsumed.Sounds more like dogs or yotes.

As far as wolves killing yotes you couldn't be more right.They will hunt down and kill ever yote it can catch.

But they don't seem to bother foxs.That is how we tell if the wolf pop is up the foxes come back and the yotes go away.

A population of 700 in your area is huge and will take to many calves and fawns.They should be thindout. Just don't fall victom to hear say. Everyone has a freind that seen a wolf. That will soon turn into a pack then 10 packs etc.

Here in ontario we mite have about 30 wolves every 100 square km.If that much.

With our population we notice no diference in moose or deer.Although some will always argue otherwise.

Our reditor problem is with bear.

The MNR's last study showed that 75 % of our moose calves were taken by bear and about 15% by hunters.

Last I read about it they are thinking on bringing our spring hunt back.

Other views are welcome this is just my personal exp.
 
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A wolf pack just killed a man in Canada a couple weeks ago...We(the hunters who know what wolves will do) have been raising hell about the wolves here in Montana since they first brought up the idea of reintroducing wolves,now we are seeing exactly what we feared,MT,WY,and Idaho are scaling back elk hunting in the areas where the wolves are thick because the elk herds are being wiped out.As soon as the Gov. of Wy gets over his idea of openeing up unlimited hunting on them these states will be able to control them with limited hunting,I just read today that Id is planning on killing 51 wolves right along the Mt border asap,thats a good start.There have always been wolves here in MT,but before this program people kept thier numbers in check and kept it quiet,now half of them have radio collars on and you can get 10 years for it,I think the feds have FINALLY relized the program is causing more problems than it is worth.
 
Wolves don't drive out coyotes, they eat them. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifIn some places where they first introduced wolves they could not figgure out why the deer population went up then down. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif The wolves ate the coyotes, the deer were their second choice. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

I talked to a rancher in Montana who said the grisly bears were a lot of work. As soon as he shot one he had to get the tractor and burry it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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In the 70's I used to start the trapping season around Orr and trap through deer season, and then come back for spring beaver season. We lived in a tent and I kind of liked hearing the wolves howl at night but my dog sure tried to bury herself in my sleeping bag. Deer hunting got a little more difficult, the deer were alot more alert but they didn't disapear as the wolf population grew.

In the late 70's I represented the Minn. Trappers Assoc. at the Symposium on Wolves and Humans. That was quite an eye openning experience. My first real contact with "Bunny Huggers".

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defoxer

My brother in law has been hunting in Bayfield Co.

Good luck with the fox.

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NONYA

Were can I find the artical on the wolf attack,I would be interested in reading it.

Also I agree with you about if they would stop making such a big deal over protecting the wolves not so many people would be up in arms about it.

let us preditor hunters and trappers take care of the population.The wolves that learn to avoid farms and people would survive and the ones that are braisen will give us some income.

The failure of the wolf populations of the past are the result of poison,not hunters.And the farmers would not of poisoned the wolf packs if the goverment would of let the hunters keep them in check.

I am a huge fan of the wolf, but a total ban on hunting them will only result in graeter malice towards the species and just as many will be shot and waisted ,that is the real crime. Or even worst people may start poisoning again and that kills more then just wolves.
 
Trickster
It was in our local paper yesterday. Go to www.lmtribune.com (Lewiston Tribune). It's in the Outdoor section, page 1E and cont. on 3E.

Just like everything else the feds start they screw it up beyond repair and then turn it over to the States. "everything was fine when we were managing it".
Watched them do it with the wild horses in Nevada , and now with the Wolves. At least I daho is already talking about issuing tags. I sure wouldn't mind hunting them.
 
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