XLR 250 not enough, NEED MORE

Manny1972

Manny1972

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Anyone know of a good 500yd scanning light I should buy?

My Kill Light is very nice, effective up to 150yds. Need another one though, handheld with batteries, to do my 500yd scanning with. Suggestions?

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Just for scanning. Not shooting.

Sometimes though the critters just hold up at a distance, 300,400,500yds, sit and bark there. I would not try a shot at those distances but would like to light up their eyes. The Kill light just is not powerful enough for that, thus my question.
 
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Some guys claim they can shoot at 300 yards with the XLR250. Then you get a post like this that contradicts those it really makes me wonder what you can or can not believe???

I can light up stop signs and street signs at more than 500 yards with Chinese knockoffs, I've measured those distances. Eyes in the field are a judgment call and I don't have a lot of spots with 500 yards but I have no trouble seeing eyes twice what I feel comfortable shooting at.
 

Maybe it's my aging eyes, but the XLR 250 does not come close to measuring up to what I have read in so many reports. Don't get me wrong, it's a good light and I like it, I just think it doesn't reach as far as what so many have claimed for being able to see well enough for a precise shot at any great distance. I think it's fine for a calling light where critters will be closer, like 50 to 75 yards or so. To me, 100 yards is stretching it, and I mean for shooting, not spotting. Again, maybe it's just me or my particular light.

The good thing about it, is the way it operates without wires connected to a battery pack. It's rather compact and easy to use.


 
I shot and killed a coyote the other night with the xlr250 at 225yrds.I ranged this with a range finder during day light hours.I had no problem seeing the target.I do think that the darker the night the brighter the light shines.Just my opinion.
 
I have not started night hunting yet. However, I have found during the day that if you have 500 yards of open space that is why they hold up. Give them brush and gullies to move through undetected to within 100 yards and they will feel safe and come charging in.
 
Until an actual Lux measurement at a specific distance is taken with all these lights everyone can claim what they like, who's to say who's right or wrong. If one guys kills one at 225 yards and another can't see eyes at 300 who do you believe???

The lumen claims are useless. Lumens is a metric for total light output. It requires expensive specific equipment to measure which I doubt anyone buying the components and slapping a name on them has access to. The lumen claims associated with these lights are most likely a calculated measurement based on Cree's specs.

Lux is a measurement of the projected light or the "THROW" of the light. Those of you that have the ebay headlamp it's real easy to see. The lumen out put never changes, by focusing the beam you increase the lux (THROW) measurement.

I also think there is a lot of variablilty from LED to LED in these lights. A buddy and I each bought one of these and mine is significantly brighter.
http://www.lightmalls.com/uniquefire-hs-802-cree-red-light-long-range-led-flashlight-1-18650
 
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Dont get me wrong. The xlr 250 is fine and well built, but for me it wont give me positive id on more than 150yds, thats max.
Just my personal, real, experience.

So.....still looking for that super strong torch to light up eyes at real long distances.
 
Maybe I just need something like this and add red filter?

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-35-Watt-HID-Spotlight/747099.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3DSpotlight%26x%3D0%26y%3D0%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=Spotlight&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products#BVRRWidgetID
 
Originally Posted By: Manny1972Just for scanning. Not shooting. My XLR is for that.

Sometimes though the critters just hold up at a distance, 300,400,500yds, sit and bark there. I would not try a shot at those distances but would like to light up their eyes. The Kill light just is not powerful enough for that, thus my question.

Manny,

Yep, I understood that you would use it for scanning, you obviously have a bunch more room to see then we do around these parts! Good Luck!
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Quote:Maybe it's my aging eyes, but the XLR 250 does not come close to measuring up to what I have read in so many reports. Don't get me wrong, it's a good light and I like it, I just think it doesn't reach as far as what so many have claimed for being able to see well enough for a precise shot at any great distance. I think it's fine for a calling light where critters will be closer, like 50 to 75 yards or so. To me, 100 yards is stretching it, and I mean for shooting, not spotting. Again, maybe it's just me or my particular light.



Are you speaking form experience, or just what you think?

I took a coyote at a ranged 187 yards not long ago using a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 at 9 power. I saw Venatic kill a coyote at about 200 yards last night with the 250.

I have shined eyes well past 300 yards with my cree light that is equivelent to my eyes to the xlr100.

I have taken a several bobcats at around a 100 yards with the 250.

I can shine rabbit eyes with my small light past 200 yards and rabbit eyes are not nearly as bright a deer, coon, coyote, bobcat or fox.

If you can't identify a coyote at 200 yards with the 250 you either need to get a different scope or have your eyes checked.
 
Quote:I have shined eyes well past 300 yards with my cree light that is equivelent to my eyes to the xlr100.

I can shine rabbit eyes with my small light past 200 yards and rabbit eyes are not nearly as bright a deer, coon, coyote, bobcat or fox.


My thoughts exactly, eyes can be picked up at least 2X maybe 3X farther than I can ID with any given light.
 
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Originally Posted By: beagler500yds? At night? No way to + ID a target.
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I agree, not sure if your response was to my post. If I can ID at 150 that same light will reflect eyes at 300 or more. I just find it funny that some guys can ID twice as far as others with the same light. It's all subjective
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I would say ND3X50 I haven't tested it to that distance, but I've read reports or people taking recorded shots around that distance. I have confirmed targets up to about 300, so I would guess it should work for scanning eyes at 500. It's really the only thing that comes to mind with this type of distance.
 
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