XLR 250 not enough, NEED MORE

If the Olight SR90 isn't enough, then move up to the HID (high intensity discharge)type of spotlights. HID lights take a few seconds to ramp up to full output, when switched on.

The laser lights could be capable of long distances, however, the US laws limit the max laser power to be 5mW (without a special permit).
 
Lasers? Hmmmm, are lasers usable in lighting up eyballs of the critters? Please share your thoughts.

But seriously, for me, I only get about 150yds max out of my XLR250, and if its within 100yds I get a real positive ID of the animals for a shoot. I did not expect more from that, its only a tiny flashlight so Im not disappointed.
 
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For me the 250 gives me 125 yards with the red and about 150 with the green. That's telling the difference between a dog/coyote and domestic cat/bobcat. I can see the shape of the animal out a bit further but I'm not in the business of shooting my pets or anyone elses. I have id'd deer with the green at about 225 but those are fairly big animals.

This is with a Redfield Revolution. The XLR-250 does the job for me as I use a rimfire and have no urge to shoot much past 100 yards. I use the XLR-100 for scanning and I think it's almost worth it's weight in gold.

It does make a difference with humidity in the air. The green will pick up all of the moisture on a high humidity night and the red will actually id farther from my tests.
 
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Take a look at coyotelight.com I bought one and love it. They claim eyes at 750 yds and I have had the opportunity light up eyes out at 5-6 hundred. It is definitely bright enough for further. As far as identifying animals it would depend on your eyes and optics. It would also depend on how long you have been useing The light on a single charge. As the battery goes so does your distance. My coyote light stays at full brightness till the light turns off. It also last around 30 hours on a charge due to the fact it is completely dimmable and while scanning I keep it around 25% power. You dont want to give the animal a tan. Its also a nice feature for yotes since they are light shy.(In my opinion)
 


Quote: Are you speaking form experience, or just what you think?

I'm speaking from experience Yellowhammer (you misspelled from). Surely you wouldn't question my word, would you? I purchased an XLR250 and currently have it mounted on an AR. What I said above suits me and as I say, maybe it's my aging eyes or maybe it's just my particular light. It's a good light but I just can't see as well with it as I had expected.

I took a coyote at a ranged 187 yards not long ago using a Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 at 9 power. I saw Venatic kill a coyote at about 200 yards last night with the 250.

That's good for you and Venatic. That's some good shooting, particularly at night. You're the man, but Venatic beat you by a bit on range.

I have shined eyes well past 300 yards with my cree light that is equivelent (that's spelled equivalent) to my eyes to the xlr100. I have taken a several bobcats at around a 100 yards with the 250 (improper grammar). I can shine rabbit eyes with my small light past 200 yards and rabbit eyes are not nearly as bright a deer (?), coon, coyote, bobcat or fox.

You certainly can see well, I can't argue with that. Do you own stock in the company?

If you can't identify a coyote at 200 yards with the 250 you either need to get a different scope or have your eyes checked.

Maybe so, it could be my eyes, my scope or my particular light. I do know that I need to have my glasses changed and have just been putting it off. You know how it is with bills to pay. I would like another scope, and if I decide to get one you can bet the farm it will be better than a Fullfield 11. I don't think I said anything about identifying one way or the other. Thanks for being so concerned for me. It's nice to know that friends like you have my best interest at heart.



 
From my night hunting ventures,,,

I know alot of thing can come into play that has ALOT to do with ID ing a animal at distance.

Ambient light and overcast,moon,snow...even humidity


Lay of the land also plays a part...a dark holler or ravine for you western boys....you can id easier than up on a hill.


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I hunt mostly at night in wide open bermuda grass pastures that literally look like golf courses, so you can see yotes coming from a LOOONG way away. I've spent over $2000 on lights over the past 6 or 7 years. By far, the best light I own is the Olight SR90. They ain't cheap, and I wouldn't dream of trying to mount one on my gun, but if you want distance, this is distance.

Olight SR90 review with beamshots

Also, don't fool with a filter. They only cut down on your distance. They don't make the light "invisible" like many people claim.
 
Wow Kizmo, that's one serious light. Are you simply holding that in your hand and scanning or do you have the beast mounted on a stand?

I've been looking at the Lupine Betty Pro headlamp model for a scan light. Supposedly uber bright as well. Of course with that level of lumens comes a price.

http://gretnabikes.com/betty_x_pro.asp
 
I shoot off a bipod, so I'm one-handing the light when I scan and shoot, unless I have somebody along, in which case we swap off light vs. shooting. One handed shooting and scanning takes about as much getting used to as your average video game.

Man, that is one (expensive) cool headlight. Remember, though, lumens/lux isn't all there is when it comes to distance of throw. Single emitter, big deep smooth reflector throws farther than multiple emittors, smaller reflectors and orange peel textures. As an example, we also have an SR92, which, although almost as bright, doesn't throw nearly as far as the SR90 due to the fact that it has 3 emitters and smaller more shallow reflectors. We got it because on those occasions when we hunt in the woods, the SR90's beam is too focused and bright. Having cranked up emitters without a big reflector to back it up is kind of like shooting a 300 Win Mag revolver...it ain't going to pack the same punch at distance as a rifle.
 
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Manny,

If your looking for something more than the xlr 250 check out magnalight. They have 2 models, both are cordless rechargeable spotlights with red lenses. One is 5 million candlepower with li ion battery for $182. The other is a 15 million cd 35 watt HID light for $489. I have the 5 mil light it is very bright, looks similar to a lightforce but no cords and is extremely lightweight. Just make sure you get a halo shield for it from boondocks.
 
6mm- I am sorry if I offended you.

Quote:Surely you wouldn't question my word, would you?

No, but it seem from your remark and the use of the word "claimed" that you might question someone else.

There is a difference between "misspelling"/"improper grammer" and typos from typing too fast, but I realize you were stung by my insensitive nature. Unfortunately, I don't take the time to run everything through a spell checker, so maybe you can excuse me and the countless others who don't either. But, point taken, and I will try and be more careful in the future.

No, I don't own stock in the company or have any personal attachment, but I have been happy with the product's usefulness up until now, and I find it much more convenient and user friendly than the lighforce I was using.

Quote:You know how it is with bills to pay. I would like another scope, and if I decide to get one you can bet the farm it will be better than a Fullfield 11

Yes, I do. That is why it isn't "better than a Fullfield II".
 
Boyz should not point guns at each other (whilst arguing boutz grammerz) with a scope-mounted scannzer light.

I did not click link to lite, big turnoff - I don't care boutz their marketing scheme that is anti-Gun Safety 101..

just myze opinion

not looking for a scope-mounted light gunzfight.

just sayin.

anybody have link to a camo-clad thesaursus?

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Originally Posted By: BerkyHas anyone tried the "Olight M20 Warrior Premium R5" and do you like it?

Yes and yes, it is a premium tactical weapon torch, I think I have five of them mounted on five different rifles....get the M-20X with the CREE XM-L emitter instead of the older R5, it is about twice as powerful.

here is a link to some pics of night weapon pics of one:

http://forum.gofoxpro.com/fp_forums/showthread.php?t=5541
 
I shot a coyote at 290-300 yards about 1 month ago. I know it was at least 290; and could have been 300. Hard to get exact range on it because of the open field it was in. I went back during the day to range it. I could easily see the coyote's head and chest at that distance. That was on 4 power on my scope. What power do you keep your scope on? I can see better on lower power. There is something wrong with your light or your scope if you can only see 150 yards on a dark night.
 

Yellowhammer, apology accepted.

As well, my intention with my original post was to say that my experiences are not matching what some others have said. I went on to say that perhaps my eyes or my particular light might be the problem. The problem could also be my scope as you pointed out.

Apparently our experiences are different with the Kill Light for one reason or another. Mine are what they are. You on the other hand have had great experiences, and that's a good thing. Other people report mixed responses.

Either way, I like the Kill Light, and until something better comes along, it stays on my rifle. I'm always looking for a better mouse trap, however.

Good hunting to you, Yellowhammer.

Gman2153, that's a good 'un, and ya ar rite bout gunz 'en gramer.



 
While two cents ain't worth much I will throw mine in as well.
I have noticed that when it's really dark and the background area is lighter colored I can identify animals with the 250 Kill Light to almost( not quite) 250 yards as I have shot one at 220ish in a plowed field. On a brighter night against cluttered background 150 is about all I can make good ID on an animal.
The power your scope is set on makes a difference as well along with the quality.
 
Kevin Ryer, owner of TexasBoar Lights states the following:
In the spring and summer when the bleached out dead winter grass, which provides outstanding refraction and great down-range capabilities, gets taken over by new green growth the DOWN-RANGE potential of these [RED] lights will suffer! I get a number of calls every spring from customers saying the lights just don't seem to be working as well as they did in the winter.
That is the reason. The DARK COLOR of the green grass ABSORBS LIGHT so the REFRACTION is cut down. The lights simply won't have the same affective down-range capability when the grass turns dark green and especially when it gets covered with dew (when its wet).
When fall arrives and the grass dies and gets bleach out again the lights will again GAIN down-range capability due to the added refraction of light colored sun bleached grass.
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KEVIN RYER
OWNER TEXASBOARS and TEXASBOARS FEEDERLIGHTS.
 
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