5 mistakes commonly made calling predators

WOW! Kizmo, predator hunts,
i see where you're coming from and i was one of the 1st to point out that there are some pretty exorbinant claims but seriously guys pullin your willies out to measure ....really?

i dont mind someone calling b.s. now and then but i'd still like to hear the guy out.

predator hunts- yes i do think you should pay if you're going to advertise your business. only joe biden would disagree and think we shouldnt be so mean

Kizmo- calling b.s. is fine and i'm glad to see people calling it every once in a while when things get out of hand but i'd really like to know how this guy hunts its something different besides listening to the same old "AR or bolt gun" or "which AR" or "make sure you watch down wind" threads that we see. if someone has a new idea i'm happy to listen to it. if you dont want to then .....dont.

now that the belts are buckled again. lets hear what this guy does and get away from the contraversial stuff.
 
Kizmo wants to see piles of animals. I wanna see piles of animals taken tonight with a jack of hearts next to 'em.
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Then I wanna see it again tomorrow with a card to be named later.
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Originally Posted By: Predator Hunts

This was not to be one of those 5 star hotel, restaurant of your choice lavish hunts that cost thousands of dollars where your lead around by the nose and told where to point and shoot.

What would the board like me to go into further detail about?

This part. 'Cause that ain't what your website says.

For what you charge, it SHOULD be a 5 star hotel + steaks big enough to choke a bear.
 
Originally Posted By: BlanksKizmo wants to see piles of animals. I wanna see piles of animals taken tonight with a jack of hearts next to 'em.
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Then I wanna see it again tomorrow with a card to be named later.
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[beeep], I might just book a hunt with him and report back here to everyone!
 
I dunno, it sounds like fun but heck... I'd rather just save up, buy my own NV and have the same experience every weekend. I just can't justify the prices. Not for predators anyway.
 
Originally Posted By: BlanksI dunno, it sounds like fun but heck... I'd rather just save up, buy my own NV and have the same experience every weekend. I just can't justify the prices. Not for predators anyway.

Look at it this way. Either it will be the hunt of a lifetime, in which case I will cheerfully admit I am wrong while posting a boatload of pictures, or it will be worth it to shut him up.

Either way, it'll be worth it. Of course, if he's lying, he now has to be paranoid about every booking he gets after today.
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Ok i will give you my 2 cents again on this PH , like i said in the other post you just came across wrong right off the bat, And yes thats a real nice web site, but i will tell you from my stand point , I work in the Oilfield and make well over 6 figers a year,but i will never pay your type of rates for a Bobcat are coyote, when i can hunt in the same state as you with a proven guide (ON HERE)and also in NM for $350 a day.Just dont add up to me to pay $3000 when i can do the same thing for $350 for a day and night hunt.

Copied from your site.
(Three nights, One guide per hunter $3375.00 (per hunter)



I am sure you get some cilents, but i dont think you will get many from this site, most are just good oh country folks and work hard for there money.And your rates are more then most Elk and Muledeer hunts we are paying.
I along with alot of others would love to hear some of your storys and pictures of hunts ever now and then.
Very happy to have you here with us at Predator Masters if you come to share what you know and have been around, but if you joined just to push your hunts ,I dont think you came to the right spot.I might be wrong?
 
Originally Posted By: WSMBUCKI work in the Oilfield and make well over 6 figers a year

Are you interested in adopting. I'm really nice and well mannered, a decent cook, hard worker, and not a slob.
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P.S. I'll test all your calls for you.
 
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Originally Posted By: PowerfisherAnd I thought I got roasted when joined PM.....

I suspect the details differ slightly...
 
Predator hunter,

My appologies. There are jst a few things I would do a little different. But the numbers I can believe, I hunt out that way specialy in (goat country) grey fox country and that is where the big cats are. And calling 40 or 50 critters is not uncommon. Take care
 
@Super White Hunter - I have 2nd gen and 3rd gen. Prices vary please PM me or give me a called bc prices vary.

@Ultimate Predator- Far southwest Texas. 90 miles south of midland. about 65% grey fox, 20% coons, 10-15% cats(1-2 cats a night) I have had one client take 6 cats in four nights.

@WSMBUCK - have you checked out other predator guides prices? such as texas varmint hunting and boss ranch for example? You are paying for the whole experience, not just a hunt. Thousands of dollars in equipment for you to use. AGAIN all prices are negotiable. nothing is set in stone.

@Kizmo - I am not paranoid at all! I would like to hunt and meet you or anyone one this forum. I am 100% confident that whoever tried one of my hunts would not come back to this board with anything negative to say.

@Powerfisher - Its understandable. A new member to many forums online have to earn his/her voice before you are heard.


I wanted to mention that there is normally a 50/50 percent success rate with my clients. My clients are normally the deer hunters and elk hunters that are come down to take some predators are not use to this type of hunt. They normally have a 10x10 window to shoot in, where as with a predator you normally only have a 2x2.

Also, I found some boxes full of pictures. The only problem is they are not digital, so I am going spend some time this week/weekend scanning and getting some more pictures for everyone to see. Prepare to see my 'pile of carcases' very soon!
 
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Still waiting to hear about your specific rifle/scope accessory set up rather than all about your guiding business. You know it doesn't cost that much to become a sponsor on this site, and I still suspect your anterior motive is to self promote your business. Pay up like the rest of the sponsors and I don't mind you pushing your business, keep taking a free ride and I expect your time here will be short lived.
 
Originally Posted By: Ursus21Still waiting to hear about your specific rifle/scope accessory set up rather than all about your guiding business. You know it doesn't cost that much to become a sponsor on this site, and I still suspect your anterior motive is to self promote your business. Pay up like the rest of the sponsors and I don't mind you pushing your business, keep taking a free ride and I expect your time here will be short lived.

I didnt forget about you. I was gunna get you some pictures with some specs, so those people that dont like to read can look at the pics.

I know it doesnt cost much to be a sponsor, I am just in the process of determining the type of people in this forum and whether or not I want to stick around and get bashed, or sponsor a forum that wants to hear what I have to say and see some of the animals i have taken. I dont think it is a good idea to pay for something that you are not going to use. As of this evening I am not promoting just trying to defend myself from angry people and answering questions that people have(which i understand is about my service).
 
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Good country! I have some friends who hunt near there that have seen the same type of results. Its fox country no doubt and an occasional dog, but mostly greys. Thanks for the response. Chris
 
Pretty good chance the local dogs will be less rabid if you were a sponsor. I understand going into defense mode as well, been there a time or two myself.
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Anyway, look forward to the pic's and some details. I honestly do have an interest in your equipment and techniques.
 
Originally Posted By: Ultimate PredatorGood country! I have some friends who hunt near there that have seen the same type of results. Its fox country no doubt and an occasional dog, but mostly greys. Thanks for the response. Chris

you are spot on. not to many yotes deep in southwest texas


Originally Posted By: Ursus21Pretty good chance the local dogs will be less rabid if you were a sponsor. I understand going into defense mode as well, been there a time or two myself.
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Anyway, look forward to the pic's and some details. I honestly do have an interest in your equipment and techniques.

Yeah I understand the sponsor thing perfectly. Believe me, I will get you specs and more pics.
 
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I'll give you this much, you are good at holding your tongue, so to speak, and show a great deal of patience. It has, after all, been a less than warm welcome. I get the testing the waters approach idea, I get the night hunt experience thing as well. I also understand the negotiable price for the hunts, but I sure don't get the original price...unless it's really, really, really negotiable. I don't care how good the hunting/experience is, I can't imagine folks lining up at those prices. That is more than the daily rate of a African hunt.
 
Originally Posted By: Ursus21I'll give you this much, you are good at holding your tongue, so to speak, and show a great deal of patience. It has, after all, been a less than warm welcome. I get the testing the waters approach idea, I get the night hunt experience thing as well. I also understand the negotiable price for the hunts, but I sure don't get the original price...unless it's really, really, really negotiable. I don't care how good the hunting/experience is, I can't imagine folks lining up at those prices. That is more than the daily rate of a African hunt.

That is the going rate for the service that we offer. Did you check out my competitors sites that have around the same prices that I mentioned in earlier posts?

Thats why I say we are more than a hunt with all the equipment and services... yada yada yada.

Just say that you pay the $100-300 to go on one of these other guys predator hunts. Its not the same hunt. Of course you may take a predator or several predators at that matter and everything is great. A successful predator hunt.

Now lets look at it like this. on this $100+ predator hunt did you pick the gun,the setup, the night vision from all different types of setups. what did you hunt out of on this trip? out of 10-20 sets of eyes, how many did you take? how big was the animal? what was the distance of the kill? where u able to move between locations if needed? where ur expectation simply met, or exceeded?

some people may not care about any of this and that is fine. some people love it with a passion.
 
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