Burris Fullfield II question

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thats not true either Ion doyle if you had read the hole post the first time you would have under stood that i have looked at the burris fullfield many times and liked it. I was a GM and all they had was the tactical. the goofy guy behind the counter told me they were different. i asked if they were. I didnt ask you if you liked the Burris scope. Read before you point fingers. and your going to sit here and tell these people that you have never window shopped. and that you just but what item for what ever money because thats being loyal to the store. thats funny!! what else have i bought this week end wise guy and then asked questions about. There are a lot of good people on here that like what i do if you are not one of them then leave me alone. You already know how i am going to respond to you and you are lucky you are sitting behind your computer because you know dam well you wouldnt talk to any one the way you do on here, you calling me silly your the one that sounds silly
 
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I also forgot to say that if it wasnt for the inter net a lot of retail stores would be out of business. I have a brother in law that owns several mens clothing stores and the inter net is the only thing keeping his doors open. I would have to guess that that hold true in a lot of retail stores.
 
Skeet,

I don't blame you a bit test driving something in person then ordering online, considering you test drove at a franchise sporting goods store. That's your choice. I will occasionally pay a few bucks extra at the local mom & pop gun shop, just to keep some $ locally.

As far as I'm concerned if you wanna start a topic on how to appropriately scratch your balls, that's your right.

Back on topic, you're gonna love that ret. Chances are it won't match any of your loads perfectly, but once you learn how a load relates to the ret's holdover's, it's a darn sight more consistant than KY windage (no offense to you KY boys). I still stand by my intitial comment...you've purchased one of the best predator scopes for the money (I state that as my opinion, not fact).
 
Researching anything you intend to buy is only prudent. As for the service of a scope. I don't beleive I would return a defective scope to a retailer. I would send it to the manufactorer.

There is more information at my fingertips than any one employee behind the counter could ever provide.
 
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Carl..it has nothing to do with price competition..if price is the only objective then don't waste people's time test driving optic's that you are gonna buy somewhere else..it's about commen sense..i guess you don't have it either..



Dave we will have to agree to disagree on this topic for sure. We both know that neither one of us is moving from our stance we have been here before you and I. Which neither of us are going to lose sleep over it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. To me the common sense is if you can get it cheaper elsewhere why wouldn't you?

Most of the folks that know anything about the products they are selling are there because they love what they are doing. They are not making commission on the product and they got paid for the 15 minutes of their time you took up. I have been in retail working for an hourly wage and if someone bought from the store great if they didn't great, no skin off my back. I helped them and did my job. I doubt that everybody that test drives a car buys it everytime, it is no different with optics in my opinion.

Are you telling me Dave that if you test drove a car and then found the same car for $1000 less somewhere else you wouldn't purchase it at the place that could get it to you for the best deal?
 
GM, Cabelas, and Bass Pro all used to get a lot more of my money, when they were catalog stores. That was the point, no store means lower prices. Now these guys are providing a shopping experiance by means of a big fancy store with fish tanks and climbing walls. But that means raising prices to pay for the store. Their competition(mail order) only has to beat them by a little bit to get our bussiness. Those of us who know what we want, and/or want to get the best bang for the buck will continue to order our stuff through the mail. If the big guys wany my money they need to lower their prices. Here is an idea, GM, Cabelas, and Bass Pro should charge to get in the door. The place reminds me of an amusement park any way.
Then they could lower their prices, and those who wanted to skip "the shopping experiance" could just order through the catalog.
 
The whole price shopping thing really took this tread for a spin but my main point on all of this is, and maybe its just me, why the rash of questions from folks looking for advice/opinions for items they have already bought. It seems that nobody's advise at that point would really matter since it has already traded hands. What are people looking for, a pat on the back or confirmation that they did the right thing? If the person asking the question really valued anybody else's opinion then they would ask before they bought.
 
I don't know what you are talking about ION Doyle. I already knew that i liked the Burris scope. I have looked at them at least a dozen times. And i thought i made that clear, Maybe not. I just wanted to know if the glass in the tactical Burris is the same in the 3x9 field grade Burris. The man at GM told me they were different and i didn't believe him but, i wasn't 100% sure. Thats why i asked this question. What makes me angry with you Doyle is you calling me silly and making fun of my posts. If you don't like me, thats fine. But dont try to make me look like a fool. I have a new found love for this sport, and maybe i get a little excited about some things, but i am finally at a point in my life were i can spend a little money and have some fun. I mean no harm to any man, and i do apologize for getting overly excited and loosing my cool, but you were in the wrong this time not me. This subject is closed!! Lee
 
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The whole price shopping thing really took this tread for a spin but my main point on all of this is, and maybe its just me, why the rash of questions from folks looking for advice/opinions for items they have already bought. It seems that nobody's advise at that point would really matter since it has already traded hands. What are people looking for, a pat on the back or confirmation that they did the right thing? If the person asking the question really valued anybody else's opinion then they would ask before they bought.



Re-read Lee's post. He's not looking for a pat on the back. He chose the scope he wanted the FF II. He's questioning whether the FF II and the FF II Tactical are the same glass. If I understand his question correctly, he's asking about the scope HE DID NOT purchase. I would assume he's courious if the price difference is simply the target knobs over standard knobs.

Isn't that the purpose of this forum? To bounce questions, ideas off fellow members in hopes someone can provide more and/or better information than the person currently has???? If you don't like his questions/posts, don't read or reply. Can't we be thankful Lee is asking conversational type, benign questions and not stirring the pot w/ imposing his hunting or purchasing ethics on the rest of us??????
 
This is mainly for stormking but first I have to say to skeetlee that it was good of you to thank stormking for the reach-around he gave you.

But anyway I digress.

I took your advise and re-read the post and broke in down below. Maybe we both need to re-read it because I am getting a different take on it than you are.


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I went over to Gander Mountain yesterday to look around.

I never buy anything from them because there prices are to dang high.

Anyway I was looking at the burris fullfield II scopes.

The only one they had was the tactical and the glass looked pretty clear, I was impressed.

When I got home I ordered a burris Fullfield II scope in the 3x9x40 for a hunting scope.

The man at GM told me that the glass isnt the same between the tactical and the standard hunting.

I can hardly believe this since they both are fullfield II scopes.

Anyone know the facts on this? Thanks Lee



Sentence's # 1 & 2 - This is probably where all the price shopping thing came from.

Sentence's #3,4 and 5 - He liked what he saw then went home and ordered a different scope than what he looked at.

Sentence's #6,7, and 8 - Questions now arise about whether it is the same glass or not.

My deal on this is why order it and then ask questions about it later. Would it not be more prudent to ask the questions first rather than fire off the credit card info? If there are questions would it not be better to take a couple of days breather then get it later?
 

Well if the business can't compete then they will be going out of business at some point. That is the way the business world works.

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Carl..no i won't agree to disagree


Then you can lose some sleep over it because I agree to disagree and really could care less. You are sitting behind your computer reading this thinking you are going to reply "I am not going to lose any sleep" But since you are so hell bent on trying to make everyone believe the way you do it will be very hard to believe you when you say you won't be losing sleep.

I think opinions can be very valuable, but your opinion had nothing at all do do with answering his question about the differences in the 2 FF's. I guess I do not understand why it is necessary to go completely off of the topic and stir the pot when you know it is going to cause a thread like this to become heated.
 
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if any body cares to know what i said in the PM i called him an -ss h-le

i'm in stitche's /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif



Truth is,,,,,,,, Dave really is an a-hole,,,,, but he works at it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Sorry Dave. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Couldn't resist.

Cary on.
 
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I have been in retail working for an hourly wage and if someone bought from the store great if they didn't great, no skin off my back. I helped them and did my job.



This probably is your defining statement. If there is nothing in it for you then no big deal. Your "job" that you did had no benefit to the business. When you don't care your not an asset. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
Come on guys, I wish the season would hurry up and get here because this stuff is to much. We don't all have to be friends but civility isn't to much to ask for. That being said, I consider you all friends, even the ones I give a hard time. I think a lot of us are suffering from withdrawels here, I know I am.

Take care
Chupa
 
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