Custom Rifle builder sides with PETA

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I would tend to agree with what Andrew Kearns said. I know Dan Personally and at the risk of being banned from Predator Masters, (I would be joining some very good company) I can only state that he is one man to "Ride the River With" And in case you don't understand, That is about as much praise and one man can give another. (without being a little loose in the sneakers.) What I know personally, leads me to believe the blame may actually lay somewhere else.

Dave Warren
 
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I would tend to agree with what Andrew Kearns said. I know Dan Personally and at the risk of being banned from Predator Masters, (I would be joining some very good company) I can only state that he is one man to "Ride the River With" And in case you don't understand, That is about as much praise and one man can give another. (without being a little loose in the sneakers.) What I know personally, leads me to believe the blame may actually lay somewhere else.

Dave Warren



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I think we should send this letter of his to the NRA, SCI, Predator extreme, and every other club or publication you know of and ask them to boycott him and his guns, print what he has said and done to the hunting community. You should also ban his rifles from the hunt and shot.

Also, I went to his website and he has another predator web site link. I think we should join and let them know what he has done, that is if he is not a mod and removes it.
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"Ride the River With"



Mousedipper, I don't hear that saying much anymore. I don't think alot of people know its meaning. Glad to see someone still uses it.

Maintain
 
I'm glad I never did any business with him. All my custom work was done by dtech- thank God. What the heck is wrong with that guy? Wasn't he selling RRA products a few months ago? The people in PETA are using him like a sailor uses cheap hooker- and in the end they'll have about as much love for him as the sailor does for the hooker. He'll never "Jim Zumbo" his way outta that one. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
I think allot of you are missing the point.

Dan is not member of PETA, not a person with liberal views and not someone who is against any of you.

He does however have a major issue with Redfrog and others in the "know" at PM.

Again, what was posted there was a bad joke that is being blown out of proportion. What I don't get is many of you just blinding thinking he is serious about those things and accusing him of being a tree hugging Obama worshiper. You couldn't be farther from the truth. And while my words may not do nothing to sway you, I can take solace in the fact that your wrong I know it to be a fact.

I dont agree with his choice in how he wants to voice his displeasure with PM or Redfrog, as a matter of fact I think it has gone way past the point of childish, long ago.

What he posted on that site is one of about 700 things that I can see directed at the aforementioned PM staff, this one just got out of hand and is in bad taste. But again, it is just that. A bad joke that is being spun to you here to lead you to believe that PM somehow just uncovered the Rosetta stone of conspiracies and Dan Carey is really a member of PETA and an ANTI hunter. Again to all that know him, that is the biggest joke in the world.

Dave is right on in his assessment, if the proverbial **** was hitting the fan, there are not many others ahead of Dan Carey that I would want with me and watching my back.

Enjoy the show.
 
i'm going to stay out of this. just not happy what has been done to all of us here. i remember that Red angry Hatred face of Dan's at the expo. he need's to let it go. i wish the three forum's would get along.Rick
 
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I would tend to agree with what Andrew Kearns said. I know Dan Personally and at the risk of being banned from Predator Masters, (I would be joining some very good company) I can only state that he is one man to "Ride the River With" And in case you don't understand, That is about as much praise and one man can give another. (without being a little loose in the sneakers.) What I know personally, leads me to believe the blame may actually lay somewhere else.

Dave Warren



How can you say you believe the blame may actually lay somewhere else? Please elaborate. If you read what HE posted, he has done alot of damage to the hunting community. HE DID IT HIMSELF, PERIOD! If you know Dan personally, maybe you can find out what was going through his thick skull, and then slap him up the side of the head. Because if I personally knew him, I sure would. Did he just do this becuase he's PO'd at PredatorMasters? Because from where I'm sitting, he appears to be consumed in anger and rage and therefore, not thinking clearly and responsibly. He has done damage to the hunting community and his reputation. And now because of his juvinille, arrogant and irresponsible attitude his business WILL suffer.
 
I was originally going to keep my nose out of the trough as I usually do when any mudslinging starts here or anywhere else. It NEVER benefits anyone and only serves to splinter the core. But since I am one of the minority of members here who knows the custom rile builder responsible for ill deed at hand personally, here are my thoughts.

I am a member of 2 predator hunting forums and PredatorMonsters is not one of them. I do however lurk on a couple of others just to keep up on what the haters on both sides are saying about each other. To me, it's cheap entertainment and nothing more. DC and the staff of PredatorMasters have been involved in a running battle for some time as a result of the membership/sponsorship incident. Dan has let the war of words consume him. Although I still consider him a friend, there are plenty of people on both side of the fence who wish that he would just let it go. His credibility and reputation have been damaged and with this latest stunt, his business will be impacted.

Dan would be the first guy to say he doesn't give a rat's a** what any member of this forum thinks or says about him, and that in fact may be true. He's that kind of guy. The PETA thing was in incredibly bad taste and demonstrated horribly poor judgement, and I am in no way defending his action. I have, over the course of my life, been guilty of the same crimes and I doubt that many can say any different. Although he'll never admit it because of his personality, I can pretty much guarantee you posting that is something that he regrets. There have been posts made on the same website by members of the staff here that they probably regret. If they don't, they should.

DC is most likely more conservative than the majority of people reading this post and I can assure you that he is not a PETA supporter nor would he ever side with them. Some of you will forever hold what he posted against him and never forgive him for the error of his ways. If I didn't know him, I'd likely feel the same way, and don't blame you a bit. I for one will never believe that letter was sent by Dan, but the fact that it there doesn't mean that someone else can't pick up the ball and run with it. Like I said, one of the worst cases of poor judgement I've ever seen and it's too bad for everyone .

I'm also a little miffed that the value of my AR15 upper just dropped. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif

And the drama continues......
 
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Andrew was it ok for Dan to use a bore scope on the Dtec AR to that was donated at the predatormaster's hunt. you make him out as a good guy. he has said alot of bad thing's about our member's here. he is not a nic e guy. Rick



I was not there for that event and do not know the reasons that did or did not happen.

I can only speak to Dan as I know him and what my interactions have been with him. He has been kind and patient with me while I invade his shop and ask question after question. When my truck broke down after leaving his shop one night he came and picked me up, towed me back to his shop and then helped me replace the radiator the following day.

He has a wealth of knowledge on rifles, ballistics and all things "shooting" and I consider myself lucky that he has been kind enough to share it with me.

Once you get past the gruff, tough guy exterior that tells you to not touch anything in his shop over and over again, he is really a good person.

Maybe I'm weird, but I don't pass judgments on people based on what other say. I wait until I meet them and then find out for myself if I like them or not. Dan is good people in my book and has never treated me wrong.

Now if your PERSONAL experience with him has been different, well then I will understand why you don't like him. I feel I'm a pretty nice guy and do my best to treat others with respect, yet I'm sure there are people in this world that don't like me. You can't win them all.

I'm admittedly newer to predator hunting, it's drama and the world that runs around it. Yet because of my friends and mentors I have been thrust into it. I do my best to prove I am my own man and not a puppet for anyone, I think most that have met me will attest to that. There are people I consider friends in the predator hunting world that hate each other, but that drama is not mine. As far as I'm concerned they are good people as their actions towards me have proven. But what I have caught onto quick is that every off season there seems to be something that gets the feathers ruffled and keeps us glued to our monitors. I guess this time its the saga of Dan and Redfrog.

I can only hope that its as entertaining as everyone hopes it will be.
 
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kodiak61, I hear what you are saying I was a member when all the poo went down with RF. I have no idea what it was and for that matter it is none of my business. What I do know is THIS IS NO JOKE TO ME. I could care less if Dan and the Frog take shots at each other on there forums but to post what he did is bad for this sport and all hunting in general. As a gun manufacture he should known better then to even try such a stupid joke. His post did not hurt the Frog it hurt all of us GUN OWNERS and HUNTERS. I stand behind what I stated earlier not because I like the Frog or that I am so loyal to PM but because he has done harm to my sport and possibly my 2nd amendment rights. Giving fuel to the ARA and gun grabbers is not necessary they are doing fine with out this kind of BS help. I am sure that Dan is a stand up person but this feud he has is with RF not me (the member) and not PM (the forum). If Dan wants to disparage Frog on his site more power to him but keep PM, hunting and the members out of it. I came to this site to meet people and learn. I still come to this site for the same reasons. This site is not perfect but it has a lot of good information for both new and seasoned predator hunters. Let me sum this up, if you speak with Dan please let him know that I did not find his “Joke” funny and that I for one would like him to keep his feud with RF just that with RF not PM and the hunting community.
 
...I was looking at his work... comparing it to Dtech's. (Yeah I know: insulting to Dtech...)

Thanks for making my choice for me! As long as there's the slightest shade of blemish on anyone, they will not see my money!
 
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i changed my post Andrew.i'll just say i hope Dan can let it go. your good people was great meeting you. Rick



You as well Rick. When asked what were my thoughts on you I said "Gentle Giant" comes to mind.

You are truly a nice guy and it was a pleasure meeting you. I'm sure we will meet again and will have to get out and try to call something together.

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kodiak61, I here what you are saying I was a member when all the poo went down with RF. I have no idea what it was and for that matter it is none of my business. What I do know is THIS IS NO JOKE TO ME. I could care less if Dan and the Frog take shots at each other on there forums but to post what he did is bad for this sport and all hunting in general. As a gun manufacture he should known better then to even try such a stupid joke. His post did not hurt the Frog it hurt all of us GUN OWNERS and HUNTERS. I stand behind what I stated earlier not because I like the Frog or that I am so loyal to PM but because he has done harm to my sport and possibly my 2nd amendment rights. Giving fuel to the ARA and gun grabbers is not necessary they are doing fine with out this kind of BS help. I am sure that Dan is a stand up person but this feud he has is with RF not me (the member) and not PM (the forum). If Dan wants to disparage Frog on his site more power to him but keep PM, hunting and the members out of it. I came to this site to meet people and learn. I still come to this site for the same reasons. This site is not perfect but it has a lot of good information for both new and seasoned predator hunters. Let me sum this up, if you speak with Dan please let him know that I did not find his “Joke” funny and that I for one would like him to keep his feud with RF just that with RF not PM and the hunting community.




Agree completely.

If someone had said:

"Dan's an [beeep]"

"That was the stupidest thing anyone could have ever done"

"What the [beeep] was he thinking"

"Does this guy know how childish this is?"

Or anything of that nature I would have agreed wholeheartedly.

My friendship with someone doesn't cloud my judgment, in fact I think think it makes it my duty to tell them I think that was stupid. Which is what friends do.

However those were not the things being said, people were portraying him to be a covert turn coat agent for the PETA undercover mafia. This was posted as it was some form of Dateline 20/20 expose and all the world was going to see the true Dan Carey. These things were not true and as a friend I felt the need to speak up.

I don't agree with what he posted, I think the joke was horrible and wish it didn't happen. However I would like people to at least bash him for the right reasons and not make things up as we go along.
 
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I'm also a little miffed that the value of my AR15 upper just dropped.



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