Gunner at night when things go wrong. (VIDEO)

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Because he's fought hundreds of coyotes like this. It's what he lives for, jumps in the calling rig each morning for, it's his passion, heck...it's his job.

BTW, Gunner has a new litter of pups on the ground, yesterday. Check them out:

Gunner and Dixie Pups

Thanks...Tony
 
You know... when I see someone crying about "ethics" as it involves coyotes, I remember being awaken as a teen by the blood-curdling belars of one of our cows.

I slipped on my shoes, grabbed my .243 and a flashlight and sprinted to the pasture to find a pack of coyotes eating a calf out of the back end of a downed cow... while it was giving birth.

Since that day, I kill every coyote I can, by any means possible. Ethics? You politically correct types out there can sit on your high horse while people of substance get the work done.

Excellent display Tony. I'd have done the same thing were I in your position.
 
Thanks man. I just got back from TX and we had the same scene happen on some coons and a bobcat. They all died the same death with no additional fur damage.
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When the video is viewed with video enhancement software it is discovered that the "stick" that Tony used at the end of the video to dispatch the coyote was actually the stock of a 17 hmr. Watch the video a second time and note the devastating kill power. This should lay that controversy to rest once and for all...

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Okay Orkan, I suspect you are replying to my post?

Just so you know I too have my own cattle. And yes I've seen a not yet born calf eaten from the end of a cow. I hunt and trap coyotes to prevent this. I also hunt and trap for fun and maybe if the fur market is good, to make a few dollars.

Nothing about that video upset me or made me think it was "un-ethical"

But I am very concerned with hunter's, trapper's, and landowner's retaing the ability to manage predators. Nature is a [beeep] and we understand that, the other 98% of the populace does not. We know what we need to do, but every detail doesn't need to be in the public eye. I bet a bunch of Beef eaters wouldn't like to see how their dinner dies. But as long as they buy beef, I'm happy. I'll make more and hope that wreckless youtube posts of coyotes shot poorly and bonked on the head while a dog barks at them doesn't affect my income by providing the antis with some sweet footage that keeps me from keeping my herd happy and healthy.

I don't know who is fall calving in SE NM? The country isn't right for it, but whoever is, I'd like to know how they work it out? Next time someone catches a coyote eating an un-born calf post it up here and youtube. It would do more for our cause than a gut shot coyote getting wacked on the head. Not to mention all the childish posts following indicating which wood would be best for wacking a wounded coyote. Cmon guys, if you've got one half dead just get it done, why discuss it or film it?

We all hunt (I hope) so we've all seen the field work. Tailgate shots would suffice, even if rockstar predator killer status is what we are seeking.

I have no "high" horses. I prefer short blocky cow ponies, good in the rocks and mountains yet able rope a big one when ya need to.
 
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Originally Posted By: TonyTebbeThanks man. I just got back from TX and we had the same scene happen on some coons and a bobcat. They all died the same death with no additional fur damage.
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I gotcha dude. Fur is worth money, do what you gotta do. Again no value in bragging let alone talking about it. What the [beeep] are you doing, that actually requires you to carry a dispatch stick. Aren't you calling and shooting? Bad hits happen but with your crew it seems like every other critter needs a whack? Maybe PU needs a day at the range before shooting at live things. Might as well use a .17 hmr
 
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Originally Posted By: doggiNM
I bet a bunch of Beef eaters wouldn't like to see how their dinner dies. But as long as they buy beef, I'm happy. I'll make more and hope that wreckless youtube posts of coyotes shot poorly and bonked on the head while a dog barks at them doesn't affect my income by providing the antis with some sweet footage that keeps me from keeping my herd happy and healthy.

Got news for ya, the kind of folks you are worrying about offending not only don't eat beef, they consider the mere fact that you have a herd to be inhumane and tantamount to animal slavery. If you think you can reason with folks like this, you might want to send PETA a check for membership. BTW, those same people will also criticize you for "sport hunting", since you don't eat the coyotes you kill. Therefore, if you REALLY want to appease them, you should "put your coyote burger where your mouth is". Please be sure to share your recipes with us.

Originally Posted By: doggiNM
It would do more for our cause than a gut shot coyote getting wacked on the head. Not to mention all the childish posts following indicating which wood would be best for wacking a wounded coyote. Cmon guys, if you've got one half dead just get it done, why discuss it or film it?

Since when did a recreational sport become a "cause"?! People like you, who, by the way, are on both ends of the political spectrum, want to politicize EVERYTHING. No wonder our country is so divided. I thought we hunted because we enjoy it, not to make political statements or appease people of other political persuasions.

As to the reason we discuss it or film it, we want to LEARN (even from other's mistakes) and BE ENTERTAINED. That's why millions of hunting videos are sold every year and we have the Outdoor Channel, etc. Ironically, it's also the reason we have Predator Masters, a fact which seems to have escaped you at the moment.

As to wood choices for a coyote whacking stick, I'm having one made out of ironwood.
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Boy, if THAT video bothered you, I'll bet you would have (beeeep) if you saw me finish off a bobcat "turkey style" a couple of years ago with my Le Chameau boot heel. And I LIKE bobcats...
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Originally Posted By: doggiNM
We all hunt (I hope) so we've all seen the field work. Tailgate shots would suffice, even if rockstar predator killer status is what we are seeking.


Personally, I find tailgate shots boring, sort of the photographic equivalent of last week's meatloaf served cold, so speak for yourself. As to "rockstar predator killer status", well, when you kill as many yotes as Tony does in a year, I guess that is an appropriate description. I can't wait until he starts selling Predator University DVD's so I can get autographed copies to give to all my friends as Christmas gifts.
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Originally Posted By: doggiNM
Bad hits happen but with your crew it seems like every other critter needs a whack? Maybe PU needs a day at the range before shooting at live things. Might as well use a .17 hmr.

I'm sure every shot you make is DRT...
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Kizmo think all he was trying to say about "Rockstar predator caller status" was there is a few people that kill alot of animles including Tony the last two years, some of which display themselves as predator hunters a little differently and jst do it and don't have to post every coyote, fox, and cat killed. I do think everyone has had to do a little work finishing critters off in different ways. Dogs one of them. If that way works best thats fine do it. I just wouldn't post it and brag about how good my dog is at killing wounded coyotes for all to see including public. Thats just what I got out of reading what DoggiNM was trying to say. Take care
 
Kizmo, its not the far lefties that anyone should be worried about. Far lefties are far lefties its the ones in the middle that BOTH sides should care about. Its the people in the middle that dont care one way or the other that are the targets for both sides. They are the ones the far lefties use the footage to convince.

Well said doggiNM
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Just seen the Video and I see some good and some bad in it. The good is the dog did hold the coyote from getting away. The bad is no one was really in no big rush to kill the coyote. I got a feeling that they sat around to see a dog fight and a unfair one at that. One other thing it seems that we sometimes greed takes over for a so called cool video. I was raised to kill your game as quickly as you can and I did not see that. I did read that "I still wanted to hunt this place so I didn't shoot a 2nd time" to me that's just greed over turning the right thing to do. After the coyote was hit it still was not dead.
I will not lose sleep over this at all but, I don't think it was as bad as it sound "when things go wrong" should of been I didn't make a good shoot or a coyote sure can take a beating and keep on ticking. Hey guys when you post stuff on places like this then put your big boy underwear on we all don't think alike but we are all hunters and have a love for the sport. I am sure I will be black balled from here.
 
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Drhide, you better go back and look at Tony's night hunting rig. Anyone that I know would take about that long to get down from there and get to where they were at, especially at night. Drhide, you aren't gonna get blackballed, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. That is the beauty of this site, only if you get so beligerant that the boss' can't handle you anymore.

I have heard alot of people saying that the dog didn't decoy the coyote and I must disagree. The dog completly distracted the coyote from the hunter until Tony got down there to finish him off. I think in someway that is decoying.

Barry, I think it is about time to kill this one, I think it has run its course.

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I have heard alot of people saying that the dog didn't decoy the coyote and I must disagree. The dog completly distracted the coyote from the hunter until Tony got down there to finish him off. I think in someway that is decoying.



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how did gunner decoy that coyote? he!! the coyote can't even see the truck let alone a dog with a spotlight in it's eyes.
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at the 1:28 mark the coyotes attention is on the dog, not the guy with the stick.

Like I said it has ran its course. Nothing else too add, goodbye.
 
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