I NEED ADVICE ON WHAT SCOPE TO GET FOR MY 308
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Curlywoods
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You make me laugh!!!!!!!!!!
OK I will humor you. I find Ilya's review to be fair and his inclusion of other scopes in the same price range gives a person something to compare. Is he the end all optics reviewer, no! But he is putting his reputation out there and doing a [beeep] fine job. All that I have read from you is "Buy Leupold". That is in depth isn't it.
OK I will humor you. I find Ilya's review to be fair and his inclusion of other scopes in the same price range gives a person something to compare. Is he the end all optics reviewer, no! But he is putting his reputation out there and doing a [beeep] fine job. All that I have read from you is "Buy Leupold". That is in depth isn't it.
Tim Neitzke
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I sure wish BCB was here.
Alot more popcorn would be needed . lol
Alot more popcorn would be needed . lol
2muchgun
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That's it. So you are telling me I could fumble through a Cabelas catalog and gain the same info right?
I want to know WHAT TESTING he has done and HOW that makes his review worth reading. How is durability and repeatability measured? There is NO mention of a box test, a recoil test, leakage test, etc. NOTHING.
All the rest is stuff anybody can find out simply by reading mfg. specs and taking them out of the box.
Do you honestly believe that every scope he reviews and says that they "track reliably" tracks exactly 1/8" or 1/4" or 1/10 mil or whatever. I don't. You know why? Because I know better. One day, you may, I'm not promising anything, but you may, know better also.
I like to find out by USING them. You should try it. You'd be amazed at the opinions one can form all on one's own merit.........
I want to know WHAT TESTING he has done and HOW that makes his review worth reading. How is durability and repeatability measured? There is NO mention of a box test, a recoil test, leakage test, etc. NOTHING.
All the rest is stuff anybody can find out simply by reading mfg. specs and taking them out of the box.
Do you honestly believe that every scope he reviews and says that they "track reliably" tracks exactly 1/8" or 1/4" or 1/10 mil or whatever. I don't. You know why? Because I know better. One day, you may, I'm not promising anything, but you may, know better also.
I like to find out by USING them. You should try it. You'd be amazed at the opinions one can form all on one's own merit.........
Curlywoods
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So what is it that your, my or anyone else's experience tells us that will help anyone that asked about scopes that they might be interested in purchasing? I guess in your case it means "Buy Leupold"? How in the world is that helpful to anyone? Where do the new folks that are wanting to buy a decent scope go to get "unbiased opinions". Everyone that shoots has opinions and thankfully can state them. Your experience does not make you anymore of an expert than anyone else, as your experience is based upon specific standards that may not be the same for others. Do I like Ilya's reviews. Yes I sure do. I find them to be unbiased and thorough. He gives me information that I would otherwise never have, as I lack the funds to buy every scope that hits the market that I find interesting.
You get bent out of shape when I post a link to someone's negative experience with the same issues that you abhor, in a "lesser scope", because it is about your favorite dog in the hunt and an $1800.00 dog at that!. Maybe you are a bit more biased than you care to admit? Every manufacturer has problems from time to time. Some are better about listening to their customers wants and needs than others.
All I have to say is that there are a great many, very good scope manufacturers out there and one brand does not fit all wants or needs, of every shooter. If you like the "Band of Gold" on your scopes, so be it. They are good scopes, but far from the "be all end all", especially given their cost these days, in my opinion.
We all have opinions, we all have experience, we all have a brain. Word of mouth is always the first thing that most people listen too, vs professional reviewers. It should be obvious that no one person or company is perfect. Everyone that owns something that has treated them well, wants to tell the world. It is human nature.
You get bent out of shape when I post a link to someone's negative experience with the same issues that you abhor, in a "lesser scope", because it is about your favorite dog in the hunt and an $1800.00 dog at that!. Maybe you are a bit more biased than you care to admit? Every manufacturer has problems from time to time. Some are better about listening to their customers wants and needs than others.
All I have to say is that there are a great many, very good scope manufacturers out there and one brand does not fit all wants or needs, of every shooter. If you like the "Band of Gold" on your scopes, so be it. They are good scopes, but far from the "be all end all", especially given their cost these days, in my opinion.
We all have opinions, we all have experience, we all have a brain. Word of mouth is always the first thing that most people listen too, vs professional reviewers. It should be obvious that no one person or company is perfect. Everyone that owns something that has treated them well, wants to tell the world. It is human nature.
Mark2
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2 much and Curly
I think you guys have let this topic get the best of you. You guys I hope are above all this petty back and forth bickering. No disrespect, I like reading posts from both of you, but I think you guys need to go to your happy place for a minute.
It does none of us any good who are trying to learn something from these type of posts. Take care guys.
Mark2
I think you guys have let this topic get the best of you. You guys I hope are above all this petty back and forth bickering. No disrespect, I like reading posts from both of you, but I think you guys need to go to your happy place for a minute.
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2muchgun
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Congrats. You are the question dodging champion of all time.
You are like talking to a wall. I ask you a question, you come back the same crap that I've told you means nothing to me. OVER and OVER. Yet the questions remain unanswered. Think I know why.
We're done here now.....
You are like talking to a wall. I ask you a question, you come back the same crap that I've told you means nothing to me. OVER and OVER. Yet the questions remain unanswered. Think I know why.
We're done here now.....
Curlywoods
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I will let it go. I have everything answered that I need. It is not over because you wish that it were though. I respect the member ship and will drop it. You are too full of yourself there friend. Just because you say something does not make it so.
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