ARCOREY - You know, I never really considered a bear, but there was one caught & relocated in a county south of us a year or so ago. They claimed it was from Ark.& had been sighted all along it's travel route. Any naysayers feel free to google "Fayette county bear " or search the Memphis Commercial Appeal for the same topic.
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BBK
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I meant a cougar probably took it up in a tree. They have been known to kill, eat a snack, then take the rest in a tree and leave it for later. He was probably eating a snack when the farmer/you scared it away the first time. He was probably sitting not too far from you the whole time, and when you left he came back and snatched his dinner.
BBK
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There is a cougar living on the property I dove/goose hunt. But the farmer told me straight out, do not shoot the cougar. They have caught it on game cameras every year for the past 5 years, and the farmers son even lost a doe to it. He shot it with a bow, and was sitting in his stand waiting for it to bleed out and about 20 minutes later the cougar came walking down the path under him carrying his doe with the partial arrow sticking right out for him to see.
It was caught on a game camera on the next property over and somehow hit the news, they had DNR biologists and "experts" on TV telling how it is a young male that wondered here form south dakota on his way east and is just passing through. Shows you how much bullcrap the DNR puts out. That cougar has been there every year for the past 5, it lives right there.
I would LOVE to shoot it and fork out the money for a full mount, but I respect the owner and told him I will not shoot it. I haven't seen it yet personally, but honestly I hope I never do. My dove loads wont help much if I look like a fat deer to him.
It was caught on a game camera on the next property over and somehow hit the news, they had DNR biologists and "experts" on TV telling how it is a young male that wondered here form south dakota on his way east and is just passing through. Shows you how much bullcrap the DNR puts out. That cougar has been there every year for the past 5, it lives right there.
I would LOVE to shoot it and fork out the money for a full mount, but I respect the owner and told him I will not shoot it. I haven't seen it yet personally, but honestly I hope I never do. My dove loads wont help much if I look like a fat deer to him.
Rich Cronk
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Originally Posted By: RB9VarmintsBeware- Not to be argumentative , but wouldn't you expect to see leg wounds ( bites ) from canines? This took place about 3/4 of a mile from my home so I'd like to think I was familiar with all the local critters, but this deal is weird.
To All - I went back today to look things over ( didn't have time yesterday ). The entire carcass was gone. No sign of where it went. I looked the area over pretty good & couldn't find anything. I mean I would normally expect to find some scattered pieces of bone or hide or see where it was dragged off. There was nothing left but the hair that was there Monday and the stink ( it's been warm here). Called my buddy & he didn't dispose of it .So we may never know.
RichCronk - You really think it was a cougar? I've never seen one but if there's one around I'd like to know. I've got cattle & horses to worry about.
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Well I was certain of it until I read where you went back to the scene and the dead deer was gone. With knee high grass, I would think you would have seen a trail where the carcass was drug off. A cougar likes to hide the remains by throwing debris over it with it's claws. I think I will sleep on this mystery and try to come up with a better answer for you.
To All - I went back today to look things over ( didn't have time yesterday ). The entire carcass was gone. No sign of where it went. I looked the area over pretty good & couldn't find anything. I mean I would normally expect to find some scattered pieces of bone or hide or see where it was dragged off. There was nothing left but the hair that was there Monday and the stink ( it's been warm here). Called my buddy & he didn't dispose of it .So we may never know.
RichCronk - You really think it was a cougar? I've never seen one but if there's one around I'd like to know. I've got cattle & horses to worry about.
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Well I was certain of it until I read where you went back to the scene and the dead deer was gone. With knee high grass, I would think you would have seen a trail where the carcass was drug off. A cougar likes to hide the remains by throwing debris over it with it's claws. I think I will sleep on this mystery and try to come up with a better answer for you.
Originally Posted By: BBKThere is a cougar living on the property I dove/goose hunt. But the farmer told me straight out, do not shoot the cougar. They have caught it on game cameras every year for the past 5 years, and the farmers son even lost a doe to it. He shot it with a bow, and was sitting in his stand waiting for it to bleed out and about 20 minutes later the cougar came walking down the path under him carrying his doe with the partial arrow sticking right out for him to see.
It was caught on a game camera on the next property over and somehow hit the news, they had DNR biologists and "experts" on TV telling how it is a young male that wondered here form south dakota on his way east and is just passing through. Shows you how much bullcrap the DNR puts out. That cougar has been there every year for the past 5, it lives right there.
I would LOVE to shoot it and fork out the money for a full mount, but I respect the owner and told him I will not shoot it. I haven't seen it yet personally, but honestly I hope I never do. My dove loads wont help much if I look like a fat deer to him.
BBK, if by chance you happen to be talking about central Iowa? Specifically, Hardin, Marshall & Tama Counties. Then there is more than 1-puma, roaming those 3 counties. I've spoken with quite a few landowners/farmers & acrege owners who have seen a puma in those 3 areas. One lady I spoke with, her neighbor caught a lone puma with 2 off-spring on his trail camera, in Tama County area.
Around 6yrs ago while out spotting for coyote. I seen a lone puma sitting on a high hill 1/2 mile out. Over looking a wide creek valley below. That puma soon disappeared into some standing corn. That did not get harvested before the heavy snow hit. 3yrs ago, while crossing a foothill valley to pick up the coyote I just killed. I came across a pair of puma tracks, 2 miles NorEast of Marshalltown. One from that pr, held it's tail low. As when they crossed over some low drifts. It's tail would sometimes leave a brush mark on the top of the drift.
These pumas travel the Iowa River corridor. Then branch off, following the feeder creeks. Although the general "expert" opinion Is. There are no breeding pr's in Iowa. That is bunk. As they are here & some have set-up a home range.
Back to the OP. All felines whether a domesticated house cat to an African Lion. When killing their prey, go for the throat. To control & choke, killing their prey.
It was caught on a game camera on the next property over and somehow hit the news, they had DNR biologists and "experts" on TV telling how it is a young male that wondered here form south dakota on his way east and is just passing through. Shows you how much bullcrap the DNR puts out. That cougar has been there every year for the past 5, it lives right there.
I would LOVE to shoot it and fork out the money for a full mount, but I respect the owner and told him I will not shoot it. I haven't seen it yet personally, but honestly I hope I never do. My dove loads wont help much if I look like a fat deer to him.
BBK, if by chance you happen to be talking about central Iowa? Specifically, Hardin, Marshall & Tama Counties. Then there is more than 1-puma, roaming those 3 counties. I've spoken with quite a few landowners/farmers & acrege owners who have seen a puma in those 3 areas. One lady I spoke with, her neighbor caught a lone puma with 2 off-spring on his trail camera, in Tama County area.
Around 6yrs ago while out spotting for coyote. I seen a lone puma sitting on a high hill 1/2 mile out. Over looking a wide creek valley below. That puma soon disappeared into some standing corn. That did not get harvested before the heavy snow hit. 3yrs ago, while crossing a foothill valley to pick up the coyote I just killed. I came across a pair of puma tracks, 2 miles NorEast of Marshalltown. One from that pr, held it's tail low. As when they crossed over some low drifts. It's tail would sometimes leave a brush mark on the top of the drift.
These pumas travel the Iowa River corridor. Then branch off, following the feeder creeks. Although the general "expert" opinion Is. There are no breeding pr's in Iowa. That is bunk. As they are here & some have set-up a home range.
Back to the OP. All felines whether a domesticated house cat to an African Lion. When killing their prey, go for the throat. To control & choke, killing their prey.
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Rich Cronk
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Well I am back to believing that the killer is a cougar. Watch along creeks, rivers and spring runs for large tracks in the mud. The tracks will be about 4" in diameter.
cawilson82
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Where in west tn is this all happening at?
Varmintpopper
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Perhaps a pack of domestic Dogs from another near by Farm.
I've seen this happen to nearly full grown cattle on my own
place. Put a stop to it with a 30.06, and then had to sue the
Dog owners to pay for the dead stock.
Good Shooting
Lindy
I've seen this happen to nearly full grown cattle on my own
place. Put a stop to it with a 30.06, and then had to sue the
Dog owners to pay for the dead stock.
Good Shooting
Lindy
Rich Cronk
New member
Originally Posted By: VarmintpopperPerhaps a pack of domestic Dogs from another near by Farm.
I've seen this happen to nearly full grown cattle on my own
place. Put a stop to it with a 30.06, and then had to sue the
Dog owners to pay for the dead stock.
Good Shooting
Lindy
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Nope, the evidence described by original poster does not point to kill by dogs.
I've seen this happen to nearly full grown cattle on my own
place. Put a stop to it with a 30.06, and then had to sue the
Dog owners to pay for the dead stock.
Good Shooting
Lindy
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Nope, the evidence described by original poster does not point to kill by dogs.
RichCronk - If the carcass had been dragged away there should have been a trail as you suggested. I mean the drag trail from Monday was still plain to see . I'm left thinking something picked up and walked away with whatever was left of it.BTW thanks for weighing in on this.
Chilson - Shouldn't be anybody but the landowner and myself on this place. It's pretty close to my house so I think I'd notice if there was much trespassing going on.
Cawilson82 - This is in Lauderdale county on the east side right at the Haywood county line. About 1 mile from the Big Hatchie river bottom
Chilson - Shouldn't be anybody but the landowner and myself on this place. It's pretty close to my house so I think I'd notice if there was much trespassing going on.
Cawilson82 - This is in Lauderdale county on the east side right at the Haywood county line. About 1 mile from the Big Hatchie river bottom
Coyote Cruiser
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I still think it sounds like a bear. Can even a 30lb bobcat eat 15lbs of meat and still walk? probably not. Mtn lion maybe but the dragging would have continued and not to far. Also the big cat would have more than likely been dragging by the neck not the butt. I have never heard of a coyote or dogs taking anything clean by grabbing the throat. Usually its an ordeal starting on the belly or the butthole with the animal still alive when dinner starts. A small bear 200lbs can ragdoll a 120lb deer and carry it where ever he wants. What a great post eveybody loves a good murder mystery.
GC
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Originally Posted By: BBKI meant a cougar probably took it up in a tree. They have been known to kill, eat a snack, then take the rest in a tree and leave it for later. He was probably eating a snack when the farmer/you scared it away the first time. He was probably sitting not too far from you the whole time, and when you left he came back and snatched his dinner.
Can you document this with a credible source please?
Can you document this with a credible source please?