Most Accurate Rifle Out-of-the-Box
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The Perferator
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The number of guns you would have to shoot, numbers of types of ammo from each gun and the type of optics you would have to try makes this a DA question on so many levels.
Yup.
But it's fun to discuss and could help someone along the way.
The number of guns you would have to shoot, numbers of types of ammo from each gun and the type of optics you would have to try makes this a DA question on so many levels.
Yup.
But it's fun to discuss and could help someone along the way.
Mousedipper
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I have had 4 T3 Tikkas, 2 stainless, and 2 chrome moly.
The T3 lites In chrome moly shot much better than the stainless and the stainless were 223 and 308 heavy barrel
models.
The CM models are 223 and 243 and both will shoot under 1/2" (OK here it comes) all day long if I do my part.
TEE HEE
Dave
The CM
The T3 lites In chrome moly shot much better than the stainless and the stainless were 223 and 308 heavy barrel
models.
The CM models are 223 and 243 and both will shoot under 1/2" (OK here it comes) all day long if I do my part.
TEE HEE
Dave
The CM
Mousedipper
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I have had 4 T3 Tikkas, 2 stainless, and 2 chrome moly.
The T3 lites In chrome moly shot much better than the stainless and the stainless were 223 and 308 heavy barrel
models.
The CM models are 223 and 243 and both will shoot under 1/2" (OK here it comes) all day long if I do my part.
TEE HEE
Dave
The T3 lites In chrome moly shot much better than the stainless and the stainless were 223 and 308 heavy barrel
models.
The CM models are 223 and 243 and both will shoot under 1/2" (OK here it comes) all day long if I do my part.
TEE HEE
Dave
Courtgus
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Point being that there is no definitve answer. And no way to prove it. This would help no one.
It sure has helped me. I have read a post before about the best gun out of the box and I had never heard of Tikka before and after reading what everyone was sayng about them I went and got a T3 Lite in 270 wsm and Tikka will always be on the top of the list next time I am looking for a gun.
Point being that there is no definitve answer. And no way to prove it. This would help no one.
It sure has helped me. I have read a post before about the best gun out of the box and I had never heard of Tikka before and after reading what everyone was sayng about them I went and got a T3 Lite in 270 wsm and Tikka will always be on the top of the list next time I am looking for a gun.
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Point being that there is no definitve answer. And no way to prove it. This would help no one.
It sure has helped me. I have read a post before about the best gun out of the box and I had never heard of Tikka before and after reading what everyone was sayng about them I went and got a T3 Lite in 270 wsm and Tikka will always be on the top of the list next time I am looking for a gun.
In the world of product studies that would be called a sampling of one. Having no significance whatever. One Remington, one Savage, one Ruger could just have easily made your criteria....or lack thereof.
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Point being that there is no definitve answer. And no way to prove it. This would help no one.
It sure has helped me. I have read a post before about the best gun out of the box and I had never heard of Tikka before and after reading what everyone was sayng about them I went and got a T3 Lite in 270 wsm and Tikka will always be on the top of the list next time I am looking for a gun.
In the world of product studies that would be called a sampling of one. Having no significance whatever. One Remington, one Savage, one Ruger could just have easily made your criteria....or lack thereof.
Salmo22
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I guess that is what I thought all along. Depending on a hunters personal brand preference, ability to reload, preference for certain weight/types of bullets, nearly every rifle made could be called the "Most Accurate Out-of-the-Box" - with some extreme exceptions. An individual hunter's definition of "accurate" is also subjective. For example, I shoot competative benchrest where 5-shot groups are measured to 3 decimal points. A few thousands of an inch can be the difference between winner and also ran. So my idea of accuracy would likely be different than someone that does not care about such anal retentive activities /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I think it is an interesting discussion to see what people prefer - nothing more and nothing less.
If nothing else, I learned about Tikka T3's via this thread.
I think it is an interesting discussion to see what people prefer - nothing more and nothing less.
If nothing else, I learned about Tikka T3's via this thread.
dogcatcher223
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While I think odds of getting an accurate gun out of the box, goes way up with Tikka, nobody is saying there aren't other brands that aren't accurate.
My 204 M700 is very accurate. Funny thing is, it only shoots Sierra and Hornadys around 2" at 100, but will shoot Bergers less than 1/2".
My 204 M700 is very accurate. Funny thing is, it only shoots Sierra and Hornadys around 2" at 100, but will shoot Bergers less than 1/2".
kyotekiller25
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"Point being that there is no definitve answer. And no way to prove it. This would help no one."
I'd have to agree with the above poster...
Well I guess I'll be the odd man out here and say that every Remington 700 I"ve owned and shot "out of the box" with my reloads had no trouble doing 3/4" at 100 yards, and with the loads it prefers 1/2".
My dads tikka 7 RM out of the box does 1/2" as well with reloads.
Dont know about factory ammo, that crap doesn't count IMO.
I'd have to agree with the above poster...
Well I guess I'll be the odd man out here and say that every Remington 700 I"ve owned and shot "out of the box" with my reloads had no trouble doing 3/4" at 100 yards, and with the loads it prefers 1/2".
My dads tikka 7 RM out of the box does 1/2" as well with reloads.
Dont know about factory ammo, that crap doesn't count IMO.
Courtgus
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Point being that there is no definitve answer. And no way to prove it. This would help no one.
It sure has helped me. I have read a post before about the best gun out of the box and I had never heard of Tikka before and after reading what everyone was sayng about them I went and got a T3 Lite in 270 wsm and Tikka will always be on the top of the list next time I am looking for a gun.
In the world of product studies that would be called a sampling of one. Having no significance whatever. One Remington, one Savage, one Ruger could just have easily made your criteria....or lack thereof.
Call it whatever you want to call it. I call it very usefull to hear from other that own different guns by diferent makes. Therefore I believe I got the "The Best of the Box" gun there is which is very significant to me.
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Point being that there is no definitve answer. And no way to prove it. This would help no one.
It sure has helped me. I have read a post before about the best gun out of the box and I had never heard of Tikka before and after reading what everyone was sayng about them I went and got a T3 Lite in 270 wsm and Tikka will always be on the top of the list next time I am looking for a gun.
In the world of product studies that would be called a sampling of one. Having no significance whatever. One Remington, one Savage, one Ruger could just have easily made your criteria....or lack thereof.
Call it whatever you want to call it. I call it very usefull to hear from other that own different guns by diferent makes. Therefore I believe I got the "The Best of the Box" gun there is which is very significant to me.
4thhorseman
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I own 2 K31 Schmidt Rubins. I know it's not a modern production rifle, however it is the most accurate rifle I have ever owned. Just my .02 cents. Plus at around $200 a piece it's one of the best buys I've ever come across.
taylormade1
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My Tikka is much more accurate than I am using sticks
Tommy Taylor
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Hidalgo
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I own a Tikka T3 Varmint Stainless that is the most accurate rifle I have.....but NOT "Out-of-the-box". It took 125-150 rounds for it to settle down. I was impressed with it initially because of the acceptable accuracy and the slick action. But it was definitely not the most accurate rifle I have seen "out-of-the-box". Now, it is very, very impressive. It has had no work done except for the trigger being adjusted.
I own a bunch of Rugers, and 4 of them are VT Target models that are scary accurate....and they were that way initially. Now, not all of my Rugers started that way, but these 4 did. They both have several hundred rounds through them and they have never failed to impress me. They are box-stock weapons with no changes or adjustments. They are a .223, 2-.204s, and a .25/06.
If I had to make a choice, it would probably be Tikka. But that being said, I have never owned one of the more expensive rifles like a Cooper or similar. And I don't consider any of my ARs as being "stock" guns, so they aren't being considered.
I own a bunch of Rugers, and 4 of them are VT Target models that are scary accurate....and they were that way initially. Now, not all of my Rugers started that way, but these 4 did. They both have several hundred rounds through them and they have never failed to impress me. They are box-stock weapons with no changes or adjustments. They are a .223, 2-.204s, and a .25/06.
If I had to make a choice, it would probably be Tikka. But that being said, I have never owned one of the more expensive rifles like a Cooper or similar. And I don't consider any of my ARs as being "stock" guns, so they aren't being considered.
CWeeks
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Like was said above this can only be an opinion at best. Or at least what we have noticed from our own experiences. But from my experience both my Howa and my Savage have been the most accurate out of the box.
Now this is Savages slogan best out of box accuracy. I believe it personally some others will not though.
Now this is Savages slogan best out of box accuracy. I believe it personally some others will not though.
knockemdown
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My GAP came in a box, does it count? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Seriously though....
As above, wouldn't ammo play a part in this equation? Obviously, a tailored reload will garner ANY rifle's inherent accuracy. But is it even possible that there is ONE particular load that all rifles SHOULD shoot the best? Without standardized ammo to use as a control, the test's results can be based only on opinion...
"Out of the box" accuracy comaparisons between brands is subjective speculation at best and reminds me of regurgitated marketing hype. But if that makes one feel better about their gun choice, then whoop it up & enjoy...
Seriously though....
As above, wouldn't ammo play a part in this equation? Obviously, a tailored reload will garner ANY rifle's inherent accuracy. But is it even possible that there is ONE particular load that all rifles SHOULD shoot the best? Without standardized ammo to use as a control, the test's results can be based only on opinion...
"Out of the box" accuracy comaparisons between brands is subjective speculation at best and reminds me of regurgitated marketing hype. But if that makes one feel better about their gun choice, then whoop it up & enjoy...