"For all spot and stalker's " Just some thing I was thinking about?

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New_Coyote

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Well I and some friends have been doing a lot of spot and stalking this year more then ever I think..
And I started to do some thinking and had to ask these things to you true spot and stalkers??
Here is what I have to ask>>

#1:I was wondering for the people who do this how many miles do you travel a day out spot and stalking??
#2:How many hour's are you out?
#3:How many fox or coyotes do you see on a good day?
#4: Do you see more fox then coyotes?
#5: What is the weather like when you go out stocking?
#6: How many people do you take with you in just your truck or car??
Im sure Ill have more to ask as things go on but lets see how this post goes..

Thanks for you input..
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Depending on the day- but for me most are right outside my house anywhere from 30-100.

2. Couple 2-3 also depending on what goes on

3. 0-10

4. Nope we have few, but we do have certain areas that have fox or more fox,

5. Light wind sunny

6. 1-2 mostly just myself
 
Thanks for the input Hunterlee keep after them..

We are going about 0-140 miles a day..
and we are hunting with 2 people how ever we might start doing 3 to get some day time video
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We also like sunny and light wind days..
How ever we have done ok light snowy days as well..
We are seeing around 1 to 3 predator's a day..

I know there are more then just us and Huterlee doing this lets here it guys..
 
#1. not uncommom for me to put on 100+ miles a day
#2 if its not windy, dark to dark
# 3. depends on the weather. latly,if i see 10 preds a day. its a great day. 20 years ago, was common to see 20-40 fox a day. best day was 54 in about 1992
# 4.have seen/shot way more coyotes than fox this year.fox are staying closer to towns/farmsteads
# 5. i prefer warm/cloudy days. sun throws to many shadows on drifted fields.
# 6. i mostly go alone..
 
BTW, it is "stalking" not "stocking"

I hunt most every day, from post harvest to pre-Spring planting time.

I prefer a Sunny day around 20-30 degrees. A NorWester wind of +10mph. 15-20 mph even better.

Most I've seen in 1-day, was 14. I've had a few of those days. I've also had many days of seeing 4-9. Many days of not seeing a dang thing.

Reds are making a comeback. Mostly in small pocket areas. I don't hunt them anymore. Like stealing candy from a... uh...candy display LOL!

On average I drive 45-70 miles a day.

If I don't see any the 1st two hrs of daylight. There is a VERY good chance I won't seen any period. No matter how far I drive.

IMHO in my area on any given day. 90%+ of the time the coyotes or Reds will choose to bed in cover. I see the other 10% on a good day.

I hunt alone 99% of the time.
 
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I dont go as much as most guys on here due to work, but on the weekends when the wife and kid are content I travel around 80 miles in a day. Or they enjoy riding along as long as its "not all day!" Its uasully while Im gaining permission to call spots. See more fox then coyotes. Seems like windy NW direction on sunny days are good. The most I've seen in a day was 4 coyotes and 2 reds. Couldn't gain permission on that day. I'm sure others have the same problem with that. Its tough to knock on a door before 8am. So I uasully go later then 8am. Im assuming everybody on this post always gets permission unlike some clowns. Dont have enough expierence to say to much. Hoping to go out tomorrow for a bit. Good post Chris, interesting.
 
Kirby thanks for the heads up I changed it ..
Now we are getting some were with this post
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Thanks guys on all your post I see some of a want different things when we go out to do this..
That is what I wanted to see..

I like the north or north west winds also west is ok and south is ok but it seems the north or north west is the best for us..
The sun is a great thing but off and on sun is ok to..
If it is mostly cloudy and low winds that has been a ok day for us..

Ok guys lets hear some more or add to your post..
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Chris..
 
This am, NorWester wind around 8-10mph. Temp upper 20's & overcast sky. I drove 65 miles over 3hrs. Seen 3-coyotes & 4-Reds. Two seperate Reds were sitting on a den hole. I'll post some pics in a bit.

My favorite wind directions for spotting bedded predators.

1. North West
2. North
3. West
4. South West


 
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I like 5 to 10 mph wind only for one thing they cant hear you coming as easy..
On very low wind days they can hear you coming from 800+ yards or more we learned this year "this is a fact"!
 
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If I don't see any the 1st two hrs of daylight. There is a VERY good chance I won't seen any period. No matter how far I drive.



Kirby, you nailed this.i pretty much know in the first coupla hours how the day will pan out. .i'm just to stubborn to go home after 2 hours of no sightings even though i know better. also if i spot a layed up red and i can see he's watching me, i just leave for 10 minutes and come back real slow and quite. chances are good he'll be back sleeping. coyotes are a different deal. once they think thev've been spotted, seems like there head is on a swivel for hours
 
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Same here borkon. After a couple of hrs of nothing. Good chance nothing will be the menu for the day.

Coyote I missed the other day. The wind was around 10mph, crunchy snow. I used my fat rifle for a balance beam & walked atop of the exposed dirt clods. I got to 106yrds stepped off. Coyote was clueless I was there. Retrospect, I should've rested abit more before I took a standing shot.

Say New Coyote. You stalk in from their angled up-wind. You will get closer. Two reasons....You are still cross-wind & they are looking away from you. Even though a coyote might have it's head tucked in, or lowered. Does NOT mean he isn't looking around.
 
Kirby, we use hills ditches or anything we can to get down wind of the coyote or fox this is not our first rodeo that's for sure..
How ever I will say we learn new things every time we put on a stalk.. LOL
The do's and dont's hunt and learn what to do and what not to do the only way you will learn it to do it and we are learning.. LOL
The bad part on the hills and ditches is that you cant see the animal that is the down side,
The up side to it is if you cant see them they cant see you and if you are down wind you have a great chance of getting in range of them for a shot or to call them to your lap..

The coyote always seem to sleep with one eye open and there ear's wide open.. DAM THEM!
I wish I had there hearing and there vision that would be sweet
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After we spot a sleeper we circle the section one or more times to try to figure out the best way to get to them with out them seeing us or the truck, Its very hard to do but some times they catch on and they are off to the races!!



 
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Probably new to you New Coyote. But this is how I hunt on the hills.

I align myself North-South or East to West. With the coyote lined up in the middle. I then count hills, where they lay according to the coyote's coordinance. I also look for landmark structures such as [fenceline post, trees, schrubs, ect]. I note where they are from the coyote's coordinance.

End result I triangulate that canines bearing/coordinance. After considering it's bearing from all of the hills & all of the landmarkers. I know where that coyote is, no matter which direction I so choose to stalk in on him. On the hills. Even stalking in blindly from angled up-wind.

Triangulation, is similar to having an aerial map in your head. Of where that coyote is on the hills.

I use the wind direction & hills. To keep me hidden all the way in, until the shot.

Stalking in cross-wind. The wind assists in carrying your stalk in noise parrallel & past the coyote.

vs stalking in from down-wind. A coyote's ears are facing down-wind. They bed on the down-wind. Thus the front cones of their ears have un-obstructed hearing from wind interference. As the wind is not blowing into their ears & distorting sound.

For many yrs, I stalked predators from the down-wind or angled down-wind. Not to many yrs ago. It occured to me, to stalk in from their angled up-wind. Since then, even on loud snow. I have been able to get much closer. Of couse this tactic requires that you know it's exact bearing on those hills. As you will not see the canine. Until you top the last rise.
 
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#1:I was wondering for the people who do this how many miles do you travel a day out spot and stalking?? 100-140mi

#2:How many hour's are you out? sunrise to sunset then i usually make a calling stand until i cannot see

#3:How many fox or coyotes do you see on a good day?1 fox if lucky. 4-8 coyote

#4: Do you see more fox then coyotes? no

#5: What is the weather like when you go out stocking? as long as i can see more than 1/2 mile

#6: How many people do you take with you in just your truck or car?? solo only, i need to concentrate on what im looking for.
 
Kirby, That is some good info ill have to try that out next time I go out stalking that's for sure
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It seems there are a lot of guys that like to do this solo I know some of the guys around here like to go solo as well,
I do it solo here and there but I get so bored if some one is not in the truck with me and the thought in my head is that im only looking at half the stuff I should..
I look at it is there are more ups then down's to having another guy in the truck, Plus Its nice to have 4 eye balls looking around then just 2 cover way more ground when glassing or just looking,and you can have some one to talk to all day..
 
New Coyote, here is a simple sketch on triangulation.

I use terrain[counted hills], hard structures[trees, buildings, counted fenceposts, ect]. To figure the predators precise coordinance, from each structure.

Before formulating my stalk in plan. I view the bedded canine on as many different angles as I can see. While driving around the entire section, looking back in.

Not only does this give me a better understanding of terrain layout & a more accurate coordinance of the canine. But sometimes I also spot another canine laying nearby tucked back in the hills. I otherwise would not of spotted. Had I only taken a one or a couple different views.

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Ok im guessing the the big things are hills?
The dotted lines is the walk in path??
The little dots are fence posts??
The box is your truck?
And the circle is your truck or my be another coyote??
And the X is a coyote?.
Witch way is the wind going here and is there 2 coyotes or just one??
Im only guessing on all of this..

Help me out here Kirby..
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Dangit borkon, your suppose to be my wingman? Not working agin me LOL!

Chris, don't get to tied up in my sketch.

The dark rectangle is a building.
Shaded oblong shapes are hills.
Dots are [counted fenceposts].
X is the bedded predator.
Spoked circle, bottom of the page is a silo.
The dotted lines are alignment lines, to assist in bearing coordinance.

The hard structures, including local hills. Are merely "reference points". To point out the location of where the bedded predator is.

Once a hunter has atleast a couple of reference points visible. That hunter knows where the predator is. Even if it is hidden from view on the hills at the time.

When I take enough time & make mental note of the location of the predator according to nearby land markers. It works out great. Et the predator does not know you are there[provided your quiet]. Preparing to take your shot, once your target is in sight. As the predator is down & cross-wind from the hunter. Looking the opposite direction.

Over the last handfull of yrs. I've taken a few other hunters along & shown them this tactic. Every instance the coyote was facing away from us & did not know we were there. As we stalked in "blindly", not seeing the predator until we topped the last rise.
 
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