Snow-mobiler kills attacking MOOSE with his GLOCK!
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DiRTY DOG
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Poppadopalis
I have shown this video too a few people around the office! They want the guy hanged!
I find it difficult to respect folks who believe a human should be hanged for a crime against an animal (and we don't even know all the facts in this case, yet they are ready to kill a human over it).
No animal's life is more important than a human's life. Period. If they believe animals are of equal value to humans, I could not care less what they think because they are morons.
A human found guilty (in a court if law) of animal cruelty should never be punished with capitol punishment. Jail? Absolutely. Death? Absolutely not.
I have shown this video too a few people around the office! They want the guy hanged!
I find it difficult to respect folks who believe a human should be hanged for a crime against an animal (and we don't even know all the facts in this case, yet they are ready to kill a human over it).
No animal's life is more important than a human's life. Period. If they believe animals are of equal value to humans, I could not care less what they think because they are morons.
A human found guilty (in a court if law) of animal cruelty should never be punished with capitol punishment. Jail? Absolutely. Death? Absolutely not.
DiRTY DOG
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Originally Posted By: GCTrue enough... However, all we can know from the video is what we see. Anything other than what we see on video is speculation so that leaves us with what we know from the video. Gotta stick with that or call "what if" and change the rules. Whether it was a good shoot or not is NOT dependent on him going back to "finish off" the moose. And we don't need to speculate that he did not go back and put it down, we don't know either way. Stick with what we know, right?
GC
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Yes, we know he prodded and crowded the moose until he got in a tight spot, continued to agitate it after it first turned on him (which should have been a warning to a reasonably prudent person), then shot and wounded the moose, after which he rode around it and left the scene. Did I miss anything?
There was nowhere for him to go around it. Driving down in to those woods, off trail, would be stupid and a guaranteed wreck on a fallen log, hidden hole, or just plain stuck in the deep snow. He is on a sled, not a tank. Looks to me like after the first charge he thought it was going to run and was giving it some encouragement to do so. If he had done the same thing out in the open I would agree that he could have avoided it. Not in the woods though. He was pretty close to being in the open and I bet he was thinking the moose was going to break out of there and they could then get around it. He miscalculated, but did nothing wrong.
I find it kind of goofy that the general community attitude around here is that it is cool to blast a poodle because it is in range and shouldn't be in the woods, but are outraged when a guy ventilates a moose that decides to stomp his guts out.
I find it kind of goofy that the general community attitude around here is that it is cool to blast a poodle because it is in range and shouldn't be in the woods, but are outraged when a guy ventilates a moose that decides to stomp his guts out.
midwestpredator
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Originally Posted By: DiRTY DOGOriginally Posted By: Mr. Poppadopalis
I have shown this video too a few people around the office! They want the guy hanged!
I find it difficult to respect folks who believe a human should be hanged for a crime against an animal (and we don't even know all the facts in this case, yet they are ready to kill a human over it).
No animal's life is more important than a human's life. Period. If they believe animals are of equal value to humans, I could not care less what they think because they are morons.
A human found guilty (in a court if law) of animal cruelty should never be punished with capitol punishment. Jail? Absolutely. Death? Absolutely not.
So is a human not an animal?
I have shown this video too a few people around the office! They want the guy hanged!
I find it difficult to respect folks who believe a human should be hanged for a crime against an animal (and we don't even know all the facts in this case, yet they are ready to kill a human over it).
No animal's life is more important than a human's life. Period. If they believe animals are of equal value to humans, I could not care less what they think because they are morons.
A human found guilty (in a court if law) of animal cruelty should never be punished with capitol punishment. Jail? Absolutely. Death? Absolutely not.
So is a human not an animal?
If he had reverse he could of backed up,I dont know how deep the snow was or what kind of snowmobile he had, maybe he would of got stuck the second he drove off the trail.What I do know is a moose can kill you in a second and its easy to second guess when your sitting in a chair.I know this guy is lucky to be alive after the first attack.Give the guy a break.He probably figured the moose would run.He was wrong and hes lucky to be alive.That guy is more important than a moose unless your a P.E.T.A member,than a boy is a cat is a rat is a dog.
GC, no argument there. I just believe that he miscalculated, it went sideways on him and ended where he neither wanted, or expected. He did not act in the outrageous and reckless manner that is being portrayed. Hind sight is always 20/20 and I would hope that he is wishing that he had just backed off.
Redfrog
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WOW!!!! |I have to go along with Dirty Dog and J Mark.
I have shot more moose than most of you have even seen. During over 50 years of hunting, I have had more than one close up and personal encounter with these swamp donkeys. they are big and and stupid and can be dangerous. they will charge anything from a highway rig to a pickup or a train because they want to.
Most of the time when we encounter them they move off. When they don't the SOP is to let them know you are not a moose especially during the rut, if it is a bull.Yelling, waving your arms and revving your truck are all things that work to scare a moose off. The problem is they don't work all the time.
It looks to me like this guy happened onto a moose on his snowmobile track. He tried to scare it off, and instead it attacked him. It did not false charge, it attacked him and jumped onto his sled trying to strike him with it's hooves. It ran off , but turned for another attack. He drew his firearm and fired. I'm impressed that he hit the moose and secondly that he knocked it down. Excellent shooting under pressure.
Next for you people who think the moose is lying there flailing around suffering, I doubt all the animals you've ever shot have hit the ground DRT without flailing around. Can some one tell me how many times they have seen a coyote do the 'death spin'?
This animal is a heck of a lot bigger than a coyote. They do not hit the ground dead. They will thrash for a few minutes even when shot in the heart or the neck. That's not speculation , that's a fact. I'll bet that moose was dead within a few minutes. If not, I fail to see the problem. He wasn't hunting he was stopping a deadly attack. Once the threat was over he moved away from the situation.What he did then is pure speculation.
For those who think reverse is a good idea. Have you ever used reverse on a sled? How fast do you think he could have backed up down the trail while the moose was charging? What about the sled behind him.
For those who think he should have sat there and done nothing except wait till the moose left, I can give you an educated guess that the moose was not going to leave, he was going to charge.
You say the guy had choices, but so did the moose.Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
I have shot more moose than most of you have even seen. During over 50 years of hunting, I have had more than one close up and personal encounter with these swamp donkeys. they are big and and stupid and can be dangerous. they will charge anything from a highway rig to a pickup or a train because they want to.
Most of the time when we encounter them they move off. When they don't the SOP is to let them know you are not a moose especially during the rut, if it is a bull.Yelling, waving your arms and revving your truck are all things that work to scare a moose off. The problem is they don't work all the time.
It looks to me like this guy happened onto a moose on his snowmobile track. He tried to scare it off, and instead it attacked him. It did not false charge, it attacked him and jumped onto his sled trying to strike him with it's hooves. It ran off , but turned for another attack. He drew his firearm and fired. I'm impressed that he hit the moose and secondly that he knocked it down. Excellent shooting under pressure.
Next for you people who think the moose is lying there flailing around suffering, I doubt all the animals you've ever shot have hit the ground DRT without flailing around. Can some one tell me how many times they have seen a coyote do the 'death spin'?
This animal is a heck of a lot bigger than a coyote. They do not hit the ground dead. They will thrash for a few minutes even when shot in the heart or the neck. That's not speculation , that's a fact. I'll bet that moose was dead within a few minutes. If not, I fail to see the problem. He wasn't hunting he was stopping a deadly attack. Once the threat was over he moved away from the situation.What he did then is pure speculation.
For those who think reverse is a good idea. Have you ever used reverse on a sled? How fast do you think he could have backed up down the trail while the moose was charging? What about the sled behind him.
For those who think he should have sat there and done nothing except wait till the moose left, I can give you an educated guess that the moose was not going to leave, he was going to charge.
You say the guy had choices, but so did the moose.Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
justin10mm
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Don't you know your only supposed to only carry when your expecting to be jumped by a couple hoodrats, and then only a steel and wood gun with the Elmer Fudd stamp of approval. Gats be fo gangsters.
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midwestpredator
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Originally Posted By: DiRTY DOGOriginally Posted By: midwestpredator
So is a human not an animal? Seriously? I was clearly talking about human beings vs wild animals (non-humans). If this is confusing to you then maybe this discussion is over your head.
Not exactly confusing just wanted to see if I misinterpreted your commments. To me, your post was suggesting that a human is not an animal and that an animals life is worth nothing, so I was just trying to clarify your thoughts on the topic. Im quite confident in saying that I doubt you have much ability to hold a discussion that is over my head but think what you will, just be careful you might get a headache.
So is a human not an animal? Seriously? I was clearly talking about human beings vs wild animals (non-humans). If this is confusing to you then maybe this discussion is over your head.
Not exactly confusing just wanted to see if I misinterpreted your commments. To me, your post was suggesting that a human is not an animal and that an animals life is worth nothing, so I was just trying to clarify your thoughts on the topic. Im quite confident in saying that I doubt you have much ability to hold a discussion that is over my head but think what you will, just be careful you might get a headache.
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