wal-mart guns?

i bought a savage mod 12 22-250 today from wally, after all the forms and records check by the sales person, a manager goes over all the paper work again. get this, the manager has to carry it outside of the store for you. they were a lot cheaper than any gun shop or gun store around here. reckon they make their bathroom tissue a little thinner than what is sold a grocery stores. get real.
 
I have been told that this link is the Walmart supplier and you can check thier stock status online before ordering one. Our local dealer can order from the same place but pays a whole lot more. This warehouse orders large quantities from gun makers and has models that are hard for the local dealer to get. I also heard that the ATF now asks that two people look over the forms at the retail sale. http://www.internetguncatalog.com/
 
They do - and I can prove it. I settled a complaint with Wally World over what I felt were cosmetically defective "special edition" Ruger 10/22's in the Phoenix area.

I am sure a manufacturer would not distribute operationally defective firearms, however, inexpensive rifles with minor cosmetic defects are knowingly distributed.
 
danurve, maybe email Bradley to make sure he sees that? Seems a shame he doesn't come back because he didn't know everything's cool.
 
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.....I settled a complaint with Wally World.....



"Settled"? Right!
We can see through the smoke screen.....
They did what any reputable retailer would do....
They took the gun back! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

me!
 
"They do - and I can prove it. I settled a complaint with Wally World over what I felt were cosmetically defective "special edition" Ruger 10/22's in the Phoenix area."

"I am sure a manufacturer would not distribute operationally defective firearms, however, inexpensive rifles with minor cosmetic defects are knowingly distributed."

Would you care to elaborate on this vague statement?

I managed multi-million dollar retail stores for 13 years and witnessed scores of settlements made to keep frivolous complaints out of the public eye.
 
Some of this is left over from by-gone days when the first of the lower grade finishes were being marketed by big box retailers like K-Mart and others. We now have lots of outlets and stores selling the "hardwood stock" and "matte finish" shotguns from Remington, Winchester and Mossberg. But, this began with a marketing angle by K-Mart and Remington... they were the first to sell the inexpensive Remington 870s in that finish and stock material. It was still an 870 but K-Mart had them for $XXX (whatever it was)and it worked. (Imagine that K-Mart sold guns!) So, it was "argued and discussed" around the hot stove at local gun shops that these "lower priced guns from the big box" were "inferior". It has persisted. And, Remington has continued to market less finished (albeit mechanically identical) firearms through big box retailers, although they now also make them available to all of their dealers (as far as I know). THe big box stores like to buy those items in mass quantities and advertise a "Remington 1100" or "870" for $XXX but it will have a coarse matte finish on the metal and a serviceable hardwood or synthettic stock. They are right there on the shelf. So the rumors persist, accelerated by repsonses by "others" to the big box store adds...
 
Hardly frivolous, it was not a lawsuit, although admittedly I made it sound like one for effect. It would have been though; I was prepared to go the distance. I was [beeep]. Ruger was not going to get over on me. I just wanted Wally to take the rifle back and refund my money. I had not suffered any real damages and was not asking for a payout. Nevertheless they initially gave me the; “we do not accept returns on firearms.” Then they fed me the; “they all look like that.” I visited three other local Wally stores and noticed the same defect in the same model rifle at each store. It was made “special” for their stores (10/22 Rifle w/checkered stock). The “stainless” aluminum receiver looked like it had been machined with a buck knife. There were nicks and grooves all over it. They grabbed a new box from the back and did not take it out for me to look at (my fault). It was stupid of me not to go over the rifle. I trusted it would be just fine. Anyway, I got my money back – and free smiley face sticker for my trouble. I will never buy there again.

As an aside, don’t be too quick to trust big manufacturers. When any product reaches high levels of production you are going to get defects and short-cuts will be taken. Like with the big coffee makers years ago when they started to use crappy beans. It happens. Just not in my backyard. I won’t put up with that crap.
 
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danurve, maybe email Bradley to make sure he sees that? Seems a shame he doesn't come back because he didn't know everything's cool.



Thats actually a decent idea, his e-mail was hidden so I sent a pm.
 
I used to work in the sporting goods dept at k-mart a few years back when they sold guns.
So I do not know exactly how wallmart prices their firearms.
But I suspect it is somewhat similar to the way that k-mart did it.

Here goes:

Basically I was told that k-mart did not try to make money on there firearm sales.
Instead they sold them as a courtesy to the customers. After learning how to use
those wireless handheld scanner things I was able to verify what I was told. What
I found was that the selling price was generally about 10% more than cost.

And I know for certain that at least one time I bought gun below cost/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif by
using my employee discount card. Which was only a 10% discount.

The stuff that they really made their money back on was all the "accessories"(ammo, slings, scopes, camo, targets,etc etc) that went along with the firearm. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
Not to mention all the stuff your wife/girlfriend would buy while you where busy getting that "good" deal on a new gun.

Basically a win win for the store. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
Candidus -

I applaud you for telling the story straight without trying to bolster the smoke screen! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

As you reported, this particular model was made specifically for Wal-Mart with a 22" stainless barrel and a walnut-stained birch stock in the pattern of the "Deluxe" model's walnut stock.

The story you've told has been echoed a number of times over on RimfireCentral..... All 10/22's have aluminum receivers; Ruger uses different finishes for different models. It would seem that, for a short time, Ruger experimented with what I guess you would call a "painted" finish for the WallyWorld receiver rather than the brushed aluminum/clear coat. It was poorly received and they went back to the original finish. The overall quality of the firearm remained high throughout.

Ruger has made a number of "Special Run" 10/22's for Wal-Mart over the years. The 10/22 I own right now begn life as one of them. I am very satisfied with the quality! Here's the story.....

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90223

me!

P.S.
I love your "signature"! I beeepin' fit the description! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
They refunded my money with no problems,they told me that the semi auto rem 22 i brought back was the third to be returned in 2 months.I bought 2 guns from wm and they both broke,coincidence?NO WAY,i have never had to return a firearm anywhere else.Go to Wm lookat a rifle,pay close attention to the workmanship and finish,go to a reputable sporting goods store and compare the same model,if you know what you are looking for you will see the difference,if you dont know then just buy your guns at walmart.
 
The Remington 597's have had some difficulties
...no matter where they were bought.

My understanding is that they have been corrected.



I would also say that you bear some of the responsibility.....
You bought a firearm that all retailers advertise at low prices.
You got what you paid for.

I did the same recently when I purchased my first rifle in .22 WMR. I bought it from a gun shop. I made the choice; they ordered it for me. I bought a low-priced model and I have been quite disappointed in the overall quality. My bad! I will replace it at some time in the near future with a Ruger 77/22 Mag. I may well buy the Ruger from Wal-Mart /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif ; they can give me a new gun for a much lower price. I won't be trading in the other rifle; I'll sell it to someone who knows what they're getting and what I've done to the rifle to try to make it suit me.

me!
 
Well all that aside, I'm still trying to figure out what cornpones point is.
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i bought a savage mod 12 22-250 today from wally, after all the forms and records check by the sales person, a manager goes over all the paper work again. get this, the manager has to carry it outside of the store for you. they were a lot cheaper than any gun shop or gun store around here. reckon they make their bathroom tissue a little thinner than what is sold a grocery stores. get real.




Are you mad that they had to escort you out of the store and somehow that has a relation to there TP? I just don't understand? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

A lot of stores have to escort you out. What if you had a screw loose and decided to load up and start shooting because the Toilet paper was cheap. Now WM has another giant lawsuit on there hands. I kind of don't see how this is a problem. There are 4 larger stores in my town (three local/ 1 chain store) that escort you out. It doesn't offend me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

I'm not sticking up for walmart, I can't stand the place. I just don't get the original post.
 
no, i wasnt mad or upset that they carried the gun out. it was the first gun i 've purchased from a place like that. i din't know that was the norm. all the paper work, checking this ,checking that. when you fellers state you dont like a store, why? i dont necessarily like or hate any of um. if its the best price etc. thats where i trade. you young fellers fret to much, chill out, smoke if you got-um.
 
My brother bought a Winchester in .270 WSM last year from WM. He never really liked the gun, although there was nothing wrong with it. This week, he went to a gun store to get some trade-in $ on a a new Tikka. The first thing they said was Wal-Mart when he took it out of the case. I didn't ask how they knew it, but they did. Maybe WM gets some guns that are made specifically for them that are easily identifiable by others. I don't know, but I do like to do business with people who are knowledgeable. I have not yet found a WM employee who I felt was knowledgeable about firearms. I'll buy ammo all day long from WM, but I won't buy guns. It's just a personal decision, and Wal Mart gets enough of our money from our day to day necessities. I'll gladly pay more if it helps keep a local gun store in business. FWIW, anybody else in E. TN, I personally recommend Frontier Firearms and Benton Shooter's Supply. These are both outstanding stores and will go out of their way to make a customer happy.

Blake
 
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8 out of 10 firearms related forums have a thread about guns from Walmart.
Please stop the insanity.

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