We Have A President Again

Yes, Trump acted. That’s not really the debate. He tore up Obama’s deal, hit Iran with maximum pressure, carried out strikes, then stopped bombing and spent the last several weeks trying to get them back to the negotiating table anyway.

After all the talk, lies, bombing, and escalation, we still ended up right back where we started — trying to make another deal. Now Iran is no longer willing to negotiate just so Trump can find a way out and save face.

And now there’s an even bigger problem: they learned how much power the Strait gives them. They don’t even need a bomb to hurt the entire world anymore.

So yes, there were tactical wins. Iran took hits. Their economy suffered. Leaders were killed. But strategically, the situation became more dangerous, not less — with even harder radicals now running the show.

Winning battles doesn’t mean you’re winning the overall war. Our flag used to symbolize pride. Now most people are just tired, burned out, and don’t even care what the rest of the world thinks about us anymore.*We post memes trashing the left while pulling wool over our eyes…
 
Nothing gets reactions like good old memes trashing the left, hell we don’t even have to form a sentence, someone is already pumping the memes out so we don’t have to think for ourselves, lol
 
We really have not even targeted the infantry and internal security forces — the people actually beating, shooting, and mowing down Iranian protesters standing up against the regime.

Remember when Trump told the Iranian people “help is on the way”?

Well, in case people forgot, those protesters were not being slaughtered by ballistic missiles or kamikaze drones. They were being crushed face-to-face by boots on the ground enforcing the regime internally.

That’s another layer people keep ignoring.
 
Infidel 762 said:
That’s another layer people keep ignoring.
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As distasteful as it is, back in the day, common belief was that air and naval bombardment softens up the opposition, but the only way to take and secure the objective was boots on the ground and I'm not sure the American people are willing to support such a move today.

We are not privy to all the intelligence available to the powers that be, but I believe the mission has been successful in setting back Iran's nuclear ambitions for many years and deprived them of their navy and air capabilities. Taking full control of the straight will obviously come at a much higher cost, especially to Iran's neighbors and I'm sure that is one of the President's concerns. IMO, however Iran having nuclear capability was a much more immediate threat, especially to us, than the straight so there's that. Since the straight affects the rest of the world much more than the US, I'm sure that Trump expected more support from the rest of the world than we are getting. I'm sure glad that decision is above my pay grade.

Infidel 762 said:
And now there’s an even bigger problem: they learned how much power the Strait gives them. They don’t even need a bomb to hurt the entire world anymore.
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Obviously, mistakes have been made, but foresight is never as good as hindsight and in every conflict, the enemy always has a voice. I think the belief was that the downtrodden Iranians would step up and overthrow the regime, given the opportunity. Obviously we underestimated the tenacity of that regime and that has not occurred nor has support from those most affected by closure of the straight.
 
While the flow of oil through the straight may not hurt us in actual barrels that we consume, it is definitely hurting us at the pump with the price of fuel. That hurt is also passed on from the logistics companies to the consumers. We are getting screwed nonetheless.
 
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BREAKING: The White House shooting suspect has been identified as Nesire Best, according to law enforcement officials.

Best is deceased and had a documented history of prior police encounters as well as mental health issues.
Source: NBC

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Infidel 762 said:
Yes, Trump acted. That’s not really the debate. He tore up Obama’s deal, hit Iran with maximum pressure, carried out strikes, then stopped bombing and spent the last several weeks trying to get them back to the negotiating table anyway.

After all the talk, lies, bombing, and escalation, we still ended up right back where we started — trying to make another deal. Now Iran is no longer willing to negotiate just so Trump can find a way out and save face.

And now there’s an even bigger problem: they learned how much power the Strait gives them. They don’t even need a bomb to hurt the entire world anymore.

So yes, there were tactical wins. Iran took hits. Their economy suffered. Leaders were killed. But strategically, the situation became more dangerous, not less — with even harder radicals now running the show.

Winning battles doesn’t mean you’re winning the overall war. Our flag used to symbolize pride. Now most people are just tired, burned out, and don’t even care what the rest of the world thinks about us anymore.*We post memes trashing the left while pulling wool over our eyes…
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Trump didn't tear up Obamas deal, he shredded it in 2018, yet what did President Biden do about that, he unfroze millions in Iranian funds to apologize.
To show he was really sorry Biden ran from Afghanistan and armed ISIS with billions in US weapons and a well stocked airfield 300 miles from the China border, but not before killing 13 service members and leaving our afghan allies up shits creek without a canoe.
That sent a message to our allies in the region that they received loud and clear.
Been downhill from there until Trump was relected.
When the oil dires up in the middle east, where are all the countries going to buy oil from ?
Venzuela, Canada and the US, taking power away from the UAE and OPEC.
So you see there's a bigger plan being implemented than just taking out Iran, a much bigger plan.
Five moves ahead, putting America first with gas and food prices still lower than when Biden opened the border and used taxpayer dollars to fund the southern invasion.
SJC
 
I'm getting tired of these morons shooting, or attempting to shoot at My President.
I'm not talking about just Trump, I'm referring to all the POTUS, everyone one of them has been my POTUS even when I didn't want them in office, didn't vote for them is still my POTUS. Just my 2 cents worth.
 
Me too!
It was once explained to me that you salute the uniform/rank, not the person wearing it. The POTUS is the commander in chief of the US and love him or hate him the office should still be respected and not have a target on their back because some sick moron/morons don't agree with his policies.
I know that I'm going to despise the next Democratic president if the party continues with their current agenda, which they probably will, but I'm certainly not going to try to change things by trying to assassinate them, nothing will change, they will just be replaced with a like minded Democratic president and it will be business as usual to the party!
Thought I'd add my 2 cents worth also! LOL!!!
 
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