Tim Neitzke
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I play with a fast twist 223 AI and 75 gr A-max. It fun, cheaper, and lets you learn the basics.
Long range shooting
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There is a forum out there, long range only dot com, that is pretty dedicated to long range, as well as extended long range, shooting. I know a few of those guys as well as one of the mods and, much like this forum, everyone is VERY helpful and you can spend days reading and learning. Best of all, unlike some of the other forums, there is never any pissing contests between members.
Remember, the only "dumb" question asked, is the question NOT asked.
Remember, the only "dumb" question asked, is the question NOT asked.
Tim Neitzke
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If you end up getting serious and shoot a bunch, you will be putting on many barrels . some will take longer than others before they need it.
That reminds me.... I got a 243 AI that needs some serious fun time .
That reminds me.... I got a 243 AI that needs some serious fun time .
Tim Neitzke
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Originally Posted By: B23There is a forum out there, long range only dot com, that is pretty dedicated to long range, as well as extended long range, shooting. I know a few of those guys as well as one of the mods and, much like this forum, everyone is VERY helpful and you can spend days reading and learning. Best of all, unlike some of the other forums, there is never any pissing contests between members.
Remember, the only "dumb" question asked, is the question NOT asked.
I'll have to check that place out.
Remember, the only "dumb" question asked, is the question NOT asked.
I'll have to check that place out.
The natural elements take the most practice. We can get apps and do the math on all this other stuff with near pinpoint accuracy but there's no "app" for Mother Nature and all her variables. No, she just takes lots of time in the field to try and figure her out and just when you think you're starting to get her dialed in, she throws you a curve ball that leaves you thinking, what the eff!
tugboater
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To the op.
I'm going to be Putting together a 223 practice rifle for Prs shooting. That way I can get in lots of trigger time and save the barrel life on my Prs rifle.
So in short... If your going to be doing a lot of shooting or competing, then ya it's a great idea.
I'm going to be Putting together a 223 practice rifle for Prs shooting. That way I can get in lots of trigger time and save the barrel life on my Prs rifle.
So in short... If your going to be doing a lot of shooting or competing, then ya it's a great idea.
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Originally Posted By: GhostsoftheGrassAnother question that I was pondering on last night. Do/did any of you practice with a much cheaper round for starters? I was kinda looking at a good bull barrel 223 to load up heavy bullets with and get a feel of wind drift, mirage, and few other variables. Or be money ahead using my Creedmoor then just rebarrel it down the road. Sorry if my questions come off on the dumb side... I feel like I got a thread full of great guys going anyways so I'm not concerned.
I started with CF's, added rimfires, and now airguns, due maybe a bit to cost, but more variety than anything else. Also when I go to the PI every year, airguns are all I can shoot there really.
I started with CF's, added rimfires, and now airguns, due maybe a bit to cost, but more variety than anything else. Also when I go to the PI every year, airguns are all I can shoot there really.
WinDrummer
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sscoyote: nice shooting! That's a pretty interesting-looking setup, what's the thinking behind no stock? I'm not familiar with that gun layout.
Sorry I forgot to specify: my .22-250 is a 26" fluted heavy barrel Savage with 1:8" twist, so I was thinking of trying out some of the 75-90gn bullets like the A-MAX, VLD match, or MatchKing. Are these worthwhile trying out, or is the wind-drift just too much with this smaller caliber, despite the higher BC offerings? As you all know, talk is cheap so I'm really interested to hear from the experience crowd before I exhaust 3-6 different bullets to find out that my caliber just isn't up to it. Any experiences, stories, comments are greatly appreciated
Sorry I forgot to specify: my .22-250 is a 26" fluted heavy barrel Savage with 1:8" twist, so I was thinking of trying out some of the 75-90gn bullets like the A-MAX, VLD match, or MatchKing. Are these worthwhile trying out, or is the wind-drift just too much with this smaller caliber, despite the higher BC offerings? As you all know, talk is cheap so I'm really interested to hear from the experience crowd before I exhaust 3-6 different bullets to find out that my caliber just isn't up to it. Any experiences, stories, comments are greatly appreciated
Buster Hindend
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Originally Posted By: WinDrummersscoyote: nice shooting! That's a pretty interesting-looking setup, what's the thinking behind no stock? I'm not familiar with that gun layout.
Sorry I forgot to specify: my .22-250 is a 26" fluted heavy barrel Savage with 1:8" twist, so I was thinking of trying out some of the 75-90gn bullets like the A-MAX, VLD match, or MatchKing. Are these worthwhile trying out, or is the wind-drift just too much with this smaller caliber, despite the higher BC offerings? As you all know, talk is cheap so I'm really interested to hear from the experience crowd before I exhaust 3-6 different bullets to find out that my caliber just isn't up to it. Any experiences, stories, comments are greatly appreciated
I run the 75Amax in my 223 AI and the 80 VLD in my 22 BR out to a little past 1,000 all the time. Mainly the 80's in my 22 BR. The bullets are able and the 22-250 has more powder than either of the two rounds I'm using.
I find that the smaller the projectile, the harder it is to see hits and misses. When shooting long range, a 75 to 80 gr bullet doesn't kick up as much dirt on a miss and they don't move the plate or make as dark or big of a splash as a heavier bullet.
IF you are on the fence, try some 75 Amax out. I use them in my 22-243 and kill coyotes with them.
Sorry I forgot to specify: my .22-250 is a 26" fluted heavy barrel Savage with 1:8" twist, so I was thinking of trying out some of the 75-90gn bullets like the A-MAX, VLD match, or MatchKing. Are these worthwhile trying out, or is the wind-drift just too much with this smaller caliber, despite the higher BC offerings? As you all know, talk is cheap so I'm really interested to hear from the experience crowd before I exhaust 3-6 different bullets to find out that my caliber just isn't up to it. Any experiences, stories, comments are greatly appreciated
I run the 75Amax in my 223 AI and the 80 VLD in my 22 BR out to a little past 1,000 all the time. Mainly the 80's in my 22 BR. The bullets are able and the 22-250 has more powder than either of the two rounds I'm using.
I find that the smaller the projectile, the harder it is to see hits and misses. When shooting long range, a 75 to 80 gr bullet doesn't kick up as much dirt on a miss and they don't move the plate or make as dark or big of a splash as a heavier bullet.
IF you are on the fence, try some 75 Amax out. I use them in my 22-243 and kill coyotes with them.
Buster Hindend
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I also have all parts except action to build a 20-250 to shoot the 55 Bergers
I'd like to take a 20 cal 1000 yards
I'd like to take a 20 cal 1000 yards
"I know a guy..." no really I do, that uses a 22-250 with heavy amax bullets that takes it to 1000 practicing regularly. He has tried a variety of wildcat stuff, but last I knew was using this setup for his main coyote killer. Last I knew he had not taken a coyote at 1000, but it has been a while since I have got to visit with him. I am not even sure if he would try a shot that far on an animal with that rig, but I do know he has knocked down a bunch of coyotes at longer-than-normal ranges.
Seems like he is running an 8 twist with the 80's, but I am not certain.
Seems like he is running an 8 twist with the 80's, but I am not certain.
Buster Hindend
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Just sayin
Just sayin
Smokin250
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HAHA I knew you would like that one.
OP, one other thing I was thinking of today. Do you have access to somewhere to shoot out a couple hundred yards currently? Also, what rifle to do you use primarly.
Where I live I do not have access to more than 200yds to shoot safely. One thing we did to help practice is make a stand with a couple of hammer heads on it to shoot at. We took a large sledge hammer, small sledge, and a regular hammer. Cut the handles off and welded hangers on them. Then made a rack. While the targets themselves are not very small they are fun to shoot at and also are a change of pace from a regular piece of paper. Not to mention they are hardened and take a shot like a champ. Shooting at smaller reactive targets is great practice. You would be surprised how difficult hammer heads can be from ranges of 200-500 yds. Remember the ole saying, aim small miss small. And to practice you can use whatever rifle you have to get started. Most rifles are more than ample to shoot out to 300-500 yds. Scope is always your hold back of course. However if your shooting at those small targets it will hone your skills and give you more confidence without spending a whole ton of money.
OP, one other thing I was thinking of today. Do you have access to somewhere to shoot out a couple hundred yards currently? Also, what rifle to do you use primarly.
Where I live I do not have access to more than 200yds to shoot safely. One thing we did to help practice is make a stand with a couple of hammer heads on it to shoot at. We took a large sledge hammer, small sledge, and a regular hammer. Cut the handles off and welded hangers on them. Then made a rack. While the targets themselves are not very small they are fun to shoot at and also are a change of pace from a regular piece of paper. Not to mention they are hardened and take a shot like a champ. Shooting at smaller reactive targets is great practice. You would be surprised how difficult hammer heads can be from ranges of 200-500 yds. Remember the ole saying, aim small miss small. And to practice you can use whatever rifle you have to get started. Most rifles are more than ample to shoot out to 300-500 yds. Scope is always your hold back of course. However if your shooting at those small targets it will hone your skills and give you more confidence without spending a whole ton of money.
GhostsoftheGrass
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Smokin250 yes I always find a place to shoot longer distances. I always setup my portable steel targets to 600 yds. Currently building a range out to 700 yds down one pasture draw and then through the other draw can get to 970 yds. I'm anxious to get that done. I got rifles from .22 caliber all the way to 300 win mag that I want to extend out.