OK Lets say your guns are banned!

I sincerely hope that no one reading my earlier post has it in their head that I'm advocating capitulation to any effort to remove weapons from law abiding citizens...

It's just that I read so many responses to the effect, "From My Cold, Dead Hands" and while it sounds macho...it's not realistic for most...

I agree that the time to get together and get vocal is now...before any serious erosion of our rights gets widespread...but it has to be concerted, as most of our elitist politicians have lately started to ignore individuals.
 
Here's an answer: get yourself and as many other people as possible to an Appleseed event.

www.appleseedinfo.org/smf

With enough people in the country being Appleseeders we can turn the tide in our favor with the ballot box, not the cartridge box. And if that did fail, then God have mercy on our enemies - they will need it.

We make a mistake if we think this is just about guns. If our government tries to do away with Constitutionally explicit and Supreme Court-affirmed rights, it is willfully breaking its own laws and as such is not only a criminal organization, but - due to the explicitly anti-Constitutional nature of its actions - a treasonous one as well.

If we let them get away with trashing one amendment of the Bill of Rights, do any of you think they will stop at this one? Freedom of speech, right to a jury trial, you name it - this crowd we have now is just warming up.

Guns are just the 'canary in the coal mine' for the bigger picture. We have to draw the line now.
 
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In 1936 in Germany the Government gave a segment of the population a date and time to report to "work camps' After that date these people were declared crimminal enimies of the state and anyone harboring them or knowingly aiding them were also Crimminals. Fro 1936 to 1945 over twelve million people were murdered by that government, these people were not all part of that crimminal class not had many of them aided or otherwise helped that race of "crimminal enimies" While six million of them were murdered six to eight million people of other classes and races were also murdered. Germany had been considered an "enlightened country" Before the Government was given to a mad man. One who promised "change and prosperity" just give his party a chance. Yes yes keep telling yourselves "it cannot happen here"



You what to know what really makes me scratch my head. The steps that allowed for Hitler to do what he did was created by liberals before he got there. These same liberal policies and practices are what the current liberals are wanting to install right now. There is not a lot of difference.

One other head scratching thought - Boxer and Feinstein are far left liberals. And they are of Jewish heritage. Knock knock ... any one home?

KC
 



If we let them get away with trashing one amendment of the Bill of Rights, do any of you think they will stop at this one? Freedom of speech, right to a jury trial, you name it - this crowd we have now is just warming up.

Guns are just the 'canary in the coal mine' for the bigger picture. We have to draw the line now.


You are 100% right. If they disarm americans what are you going to fight with later on down the road. A butter knife. What better way to defeat your enemy then to take away his only tool for fighting? By the time if it ever dose come down to a real fight. Courts,law attorneys are not going to be chit. It will be total chaos. Prison camps and so on. Right now let are words and letters be herd support pro gun programs and with any luck the problem will be solved before it starts to get to bad. But If the chit ever hits the fan we all better be ready to protect are great united states of america. When it comes down to this nothing will help except blood spilled on soil. I have no kids But gosh damit im not going to let any of your kids grow up and not be free if it comes down to it. So say can you pull the trigger. You dam right as a last resort no problem. Im not going to live behind a fence or some one baby setting me and i dont except any one else to want to. If they start chipping away at are freedom like several said before they wont stop. Problem is if they do ban all arms and every one turns tail then they have it made they can do what ever when ever they want. How you going to fight with no weapons. Knife to a gun fight just wont work well at all. I pray it never comes close to that but there is all ways a chance it could happen United we stand.
And to the person that said WE US you are 100% right this is a fight we all need to be involved in all the way to the end.
From the sounds of everything on the news and so on i would love to see him get tossed to the crub like a bad habbit. Sounds like a lot of people in the house,senate is getting tired of the chit as well. we have been fighting tooth and nail and have won several all ready if we keep it up they will see we are not going to lay down and be a floor mat.
 
Hmmm...government doesn't know if you STILL own any guns or not. Sure, they know that you purchased some, but federal law allows you to sell or gift them to anyone that you think can legally own a gun. No paper work is needed for this either.
So...all you say is that you don't own any at this time. Since we no longer have a President that believes warrantless searches are legal, that should buy you plenty of time to hide them before they get a warrant.

Jim
 
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This is all hypothetical, so at the point of all this going on the federal laws would get thrown out the window or adjusted as seen fit. As stated above, by the time our world got to this point we would have much more to worry about than giving up our guns. I am a Christian, so I pray for a pre-tribulation rapture & hold my Bible as tightly as my rifle. Hopefully that will keep me and my loved ones out of this situation all together.



You are what OBAMA refers to as a "bitter clinger"........

http://gunowners.org/clinger.htm
 
I do not think it will ever come to this. However if they do come to your house to confiscate your firearms----I do not think it will be a meter maid knocking on the front door. You can be very sure that it will be well armed and equipped personell. I am sure this will not be their first rodeo, and I am pretty sure they will take their safety into account first.

I have heard the "cold dead hands" quote for years. And it is a bunch of bunk. Nobody is willingly going to die, or put their familes in imminent danger just to protect their 30-06. Sorry, but I just do not believe it. And if you would put a child in danger to protect your 30-06, then there is a word for that.........

I will be like a lot of you guys, and go with deniability, and I will try to hide a few pieces, and I would fight as best I could to keep my firearms. But I realize that I would be no match for well equipped personnel.

I have seen so many changes through the years are far as firearms are concerned. If you would have told me 35 years ago how bad we would be regulated today, I would have said that you were crazy. That there was no way they would get away with things like they are doing today. However they ARE DOING IT TODAY.

Confiscation is going to happen, however it will be over a period of time, they will not be knocking on anybody's door. They are just going to make things increasingly more difficult to attain.

I am an older fellow now, and I will not have any problems for the rest of my life as far as firearms are concerned. However if I was a young fellow like a lot of you guys are, I would be buying a few things. And I would be keeping it simple. I would not be buying assault type firearms that might need intricate parts. I would be buying the simpler type firearms that are easier to work on, and that are stronger and more reliabe over time. And I would be buying and storing components. And I would definitely learn how to cast my own bullets from the lead that I have stored. Also I would try to be consistent with the type of, and the manufacture of the firearms I was buying. So that parts might be interchangeable.

If they ever do start confiscating firearms they will start with the AR's and other semi-auto rifles. It will be a while before they come looking for my 1886 Winchester lever action in 45-70. And believe me, I am very deadly with my 1886!!! Just remember that at one time in our history the 1886 was an "assault rifle". You guys may laugh at me, but I promise you that a Marlin 1894 in 44 magnum makes a great home defense firearm, that is not very intimidating to anyone, but deadly in the hands of a guy who knows how to use it. Tom.
 
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I have heard the "cold dead hands" quote for years. And it is a bunch of bunk. Nobody is willingly going to die, or put their familes in imminent danger just to protect their 30-06. Sorry, but I just do not believe it. And if you would put a child in danger to protect your 30-06, then there is a word for that.........Tom.

Agreed..I can't help but wonder how tough some of these "keyboard comando's" would be when staring down the wrong end of a barrel /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

I'm still raising a small family,I can't help them much if i'm in jail or dead..

JMO..
 
But you can't help them at all if you let them take over and your kids grow up in this life they are trying to change us too. It's not about my guns it's not about me... it's the future. If we teach our kids that their rights mean nothing this country will keep goin in that direction. This country will be not get any better. It's fighting for their freedom for them to grow up where going outside is safe. I feel the way I do because I was raised that how I feel is right. If I raise my kids to give into what Obama thinks is right then what they will grow up thinking that. If the country don't go to [beeep] with loose terrorists and no armed people to protect themselves...hide in the closet? I'm sorry it's not for me.

 
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It's just that I read so many responses to the effect, "From My Cold, Dead Hands" and while it sounds macho...it's not realistic for most...





I think we have some common sense seeping through the feelings here...

Since we are being so "hypothetical"

Here's somthing for you die hards to think about...A 9 person infantry squad can deliver close to 5,000 rounds per minute on a target.. How fast can you work your Remmy 700???
 
I can see this thread has been divided into those with balls and those who are, in fact, nutless.

Good thing our forefathers had them.

It has a lot more to do with than just "protecting your 30-06." First your firearms, then the rest of your freedoms will follow.

Doubt I'd be behind a 700 at such a time, but you go ahead and pick whatever weapon you want.......
 
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I can see this thread has been divided into those with balls and those who are, in fact, nutless.



I think its funny that you would make that statement, maybe you should take up paintball or somethin.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

IME, the guys with the biggest mouth do the least amount of shootin when the bullets start flying...

But in case you really have big balls the second you fire a round all you do is give them justification to kill you...right before they pry a weapon from your "still warm" dead hands...
CNN Headline---- "Militant is killed after firing on federal agents, Department of Homeland security will step up efforts to disarm suspected radicals such as this"---- Eric Holder sits in his office smiling at the TV..

By the way, brains will get you farther than balls any day of the week... Think with your head and not your emotions.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
That is thinkin' with my head. Just because some don't walk the walk, doesn't mean others don't. I am willing to fight for my freedoms. If others aren't, so be it.

I've plenty of brains to go with those balls, also......
 
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I can see this thread has been divided into those with balls and those who are, in fact, nutless.

2MG..Indeed this thread has became divided..I've stated my opinion i'm curious do you consider myself "nutless"..
 
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To put up armed resistance is stupid. That is what is termed "suicide by cop." You can hide things and evade but you can not put up armed resistance to the government and live.

Jack
 
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