What you don’t know about ADC

Thank you Mr. Gatorbait as you are the first ADC agent to post on this thread that was purposely set up for the ADC boys to explain their side about their work.
Hopefully the other ADC agents that so agressively posted on CMuddledom's (sp? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif) thread are busy busting a hump earning their keep & don't have time to post. I hope so for the F/R sake.
I do sincerely want to hear about their work & to know how not to mess it up.

As for the coyote in the pen w/ the lamb I have another take ... coyotes being as smart as they are is it possible that the coyote will see the lamb eating & getting fat would actually joint him in the feeding? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif Then the coyote & lamb will lie down together just like in the Millennium, the thousand year rule of Jesus Christ on the earth, Rev,20:1-5 Well, someday I'll be right about this. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
The ADC stays at my place a couple times a year. They hit 10 or 12 ranches with there plane and do a very good job on the coyote population.
I was told they are not there to thin them out, they are there to kill everyone they can. The shooter uses a 12ga with 2 3/4 #4, he told me he gets some wounded coyotes every trip. I asked him why he don't use 3" mag with #4 buck, he told me it cost to much.
I asked what they do with the coyotes, they let them lay. Kinda sounds like what I do.
On one of the trips last year they spooked out a lion in one of the ranchers pastures, couldn't do a thing about it. They are out there for the coyotes only.
If you're a hardcore predator hunter like myself, what the ADC can do to an area well not make you happy.
They must have a job like the rest of us, so they got to do what they got to do.
 
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denning must be a very different and specialized tecnique



It is! Denning season is the ONE time of the year that coyotes are the most vulnerable. If a coyote population must be reduced (for whatever reason), this is the best time of the year to do it. Of course, you are only going to be taking out resident, territorial pairs (and their litters), but they are much easier to locate compared to other times of the year.

This will only "temporarily" affect the resident population. Those resident pairs were defending a "sweet spot" as their territory. With them gone, that sweet spot is now up for grabs. It won't take long for transients to move into that area and claim it as their territory.

Then the cycle starts all over again. Don't cha' love it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
NASA, funny thing about Carrizozo, it use to be sheep country, the coyotes ran em out of business years ago. Now it's all cattle country and they ran the coyotes out of business /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.
 
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This doesn't mean you're thinking of taking up golf does it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
bad thing about golf ain't hitting the ball, its the hole is to flat to hit with the 243. the balls are easy.
maybe some airal golf could make it easier.
every time you go for a hole in one the remove the marker stick if they would leave it there we could try to ricosha it in.
 
Thanks NASA for the thread, I have known many ADC guys, but they never really talked about everything they do, techniques and such, and even though your not one, you know enough of them to post some informative things. My one comment is that they never said it was an issue to hunt where they had a current schedule worked up. Never knew that mattered, good info to know. Good huntin fellas'!

BTW, it sucks working in New Orleans right now! Are there any guys on here from the cajun state that hunt yotes? I dont know if there are even any around.
 
Are you kidding? Just up the I49 in Shreveport is the renowned RagnCajn! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
I dont know how renowned I am, but you are welcome here any time. What part of TX r u from Rowney. Give the weather about 60 days to cool back down and I will be shooting a few coyotes and missing a few more. If you are passing through Shreveport going home, let me know. We can meet and set a game plan. Randy
 
Ragn, how are the densities around Shreveport? I was stationed at Barksdale, 1962-1965 and there were no coyotes yet. There were some red wolves on the reservation but we weren't allowed to hunt them.
 
Excellent references, Yellowhammer! Thank you for stepping up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif This is the kind of detailed knowledge I was refering to. Anyone who "volunteers" to do ADC work as a favor to a farmer/rancher should have more than a rifle and an attitude when they take on the job.
 
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These non-threatning coyotes don't cause ranchers to pick up the phone and call me. When my phone rings I go to where the problem is and remove every coyote I can in the neighborhood. NONE get a pass from me in areas where problems are occuring.

For the record. I rarely hunt coyotes after March for pleasure as it's just to hot to be enjoyable. When I do hunt after March it's to stop a problem in an area where a coyote or coyotes are causing problems. Thus reducing the risk of me killing one of those lovely non-threatning coyotes that would rather watch the pretty livestock than eat it. I kill as many of them in the fall and winter as I can though. Weathers better and it's much more enjoyable. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

This may come as a shock to some of you but I dearly love to call in a shoot coyotes.

Byron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



I second that. If we dont go call and kill yotes when a farmer ask he will get someone else. So to keep my huntin ground, even though i dont like it sometimes i go hunt yotes in ther cow pasture when asked to do so. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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Thus reducing the risk of me killing one of those lovely non-threatning coyotes that would rather watch the pretty livestock than eat it.



Byron, did I detect just a hint of sarcasm in that sentence? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
No Rich, Im the one that offers free sarcasm. It's even listed in my sig line as one of my free services. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
 
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Ragn, how are the densities around Shreveport? I was stationed at Barksdale, 1962-1965 and there were no coyotes yet. There were some red wolves on the reservation but we weren't allowed to hunt them.



My how things have changed. I was born just shortly before that and have been seeing coyotes since I was old enough to go in the woods by my self. I started calling coyotes in 86 when I moved to Shreveport. North of town is mostly cattle ranches and cotton and corn fields. First stand I ever made I called in one and had no clue what I was doing. I found him when he sniffed my left ear. Calling was unheard of around here back then. My buddies actually laughed at me and said"calling only works in places like Texas." I told them that coyote didn't know where the state line was. Last year I called in over a dozen on one stand.

You need to renew your acquaintances in Shreveport. Bring a rifle. Randy
 
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Last year I called in over a dozen on one stand.



Ah c'mon Randy, you can't throw that one on the table and then walk away. You're teasing a bunch of addicts. Details man, details.

I'll freely admit to a large measure of ignorance when it comes to coyotes and ADC, or just coyotes for that matter, LOL, but when a farmer or rancher asks me to shoot "every one you see", whether it's coyotes, PDs, feral cats, whatever, I'm more than happy to oblige.

If that interferes with an ADC man's job for some arcane reason, then it's his own fault, and just too damned bad. He should have asked his "client" to keep any other hunters out of the mix.
 
Rich,

That sentence was ment to point out the fact that non-threatning coyotes around sheep pens is about as rediculous a statement as I've ever heard. Sure some are worse than others but it would be very naive to call then non-threatning when in close proximaty to sheep. We are talking about coyotes aren't we? I'm sure you'll disagree and with that I'm fine.

Sarcasm? Guilty as charged.

Byron
 
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