Gunner at night when things go wrong. (VIDEO)

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What I'd like to know Tony is... how did you train your dog for decoying/retrieving/recovering/baying?

From the video, taking the shot at night, which is what we all like to be masters of, is not something that is the same as shooting in the day light. If you think they are the same, then come out to my house, and show me.

Tony, taking the stick to the head of the coyote is in essence the same as knocking livestock for butcher... sometimes, that does not knock them down the first time... so a follow up is required. In this case, doing the "butchering" is the dog Gunner. The shot, not being perfect, required something that would not blow the stand...

If you were shooting with a silencer, where the report is masked, and it's subsonic, and it would not have endangered your dog... shoot 'em again!! But that's not even the scenario here. The dog, going after the shot being fired is what he's trained to do... I think that speaks volumes to how well Gunner does at his job! Try that with a Retriever dog... how many times does a bird get retrieved and it's not dead? The dog does it's job by squeezing the neck but not biting into the bird... I see the parallel there.

I think deep down, too many folks want to make this out to be a poor shot issue, and therefore, Gunner's title is not allowed to change. Decoy dog or retrieval dog, or bay dog... He did his job.
 
Originally Posted By: Brandon SneedWhat I'd like to know Tony is... how did you train your dog for decoying/retrieving/recovering/baying?

From the video, taking the shot at night, which is what we all like to be masters of, is not something that is the same as shooting in the day light. If you think they are the same, then come out to my house, and show me.

Tony, taking the stick to the head of the coyote is in essence the same as knocking livestock for butcher... sometimes, that does not knock them down the first time... so a follow up is required. In this case, doing the "butchering" is the dog Gunner. The shot, not being perfect, required something that would not blow the stand...

If you were shooting with a silencer, where the report is masked, and it's subsonic, and it would not have endangered your dog... shoot 'em again!! But that's not even the scenario here. The dog, going after the shot being fired is what he's trained to do... I think that speaks volumes to how well Gunner does at his job! Try that with a Retriever dog... how many times does a bird get retrieved and it's not dead? The dog does it's job by squeezing the neck but not biting into the bird... I see the parallel there.

I think deep down, too many folks want to make this out to be a poor shot issue, and therefore, Gunner's title is not allowed to change. Decoy dog or retrieval dog, or bay dog... He did his job.
Very well said and Gunner did just what he was trained to do as well as Tony did what he needed to do the shooter was not perfect , but we all have did it are will do it if you hunt long enough, no big deal. The end subject was a coyote killed that wont bother the rancher anymore and that makes for a happy land owner and more hunting rights.
 
Very much agreed. Let's see some more!
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I've got a few around me in my pasture nightly... but can't seem to tap them down on schedule to get out BEFORE they come around... I need to get off work earlier!
 
i dont see a problem either, no worse than a "guy" sticking a "hog" with a "knife" and posting the "video" on here.
 
HA, good job Tony. I totally understand about not wanting another shot. I did the same thing the other day deer hunting except I got down and cut her throat. But, the only problem I got is I think you need a bigger stick..hahahaha..

Send me you address and I will send you a big ole piece of oak, I understand you guys there dont have any real trees..
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Originally Posted By: TonyTebbe

That coyote suffered no more than someone trapping coyotes with leghold traps for the sole purpose of tagging them with his name and phone number and releasing them, just for their amusement purposes. 'eh George?

Thanks...Tony

Exactly.
 
I have to say that I am not a big fan of the whole dog thing. A lot of that I am sure is where I was born and raised. We don't see a lot of using dogs to run deer or yotes. With that said this is what I saw.

I went back and viewed the video again. With in 5 seconds of the shot, gunner was on the yote. At night it would be hard to find the yote again and take another shot in that time frame. In 59 seconds of the shot Tony put the animal out of it's misery. In my book that is a quick clean kill.

If you are not used to watching a dog in action, like me, I could see how one could view it differently. I think if one would step back and look at the time frame of the whole event from shot to death you would see that Gunner did a great job and Tony acted fast.

Not how I prefer to hunt, but good job and keep it up.

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Originally Posted By: WSMBUCKOriginally Posted By: Duane@ssuI think this should be moved to the "hound forum".
Tony, You made a choice, not my place to criticize.

I know from my stand point , i look around alot more on this one and not the hound section,I can understand talking about hounds and selling them over on that one , but to me and alot of others Tony as well as your pictures and others videos would help us out alot more here where we can see them and learn from them.
I do look over there ever now and then but will look on this section way more, seems most of the good storys and pictures get posted here.But thats just my 2 cents and love reading and looking at all the pictures and storys of everyones.


+1 I pretty much never look on the "hound forum", but check here often; and I always look forward to Tony's reports. I respect Tony for what he does, how he does it; and that he's able to do it. I don't know what more you could want in a dog. You must be very proud of Gunner Tony. Keep doing what you do and continue to post. You can't always please everyone, but you shouldn't expect to. A LOT of people love your posts and get a lot out of them. The few that don't; don't have to watch.


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I'm not really impressed by this video, the dog work wasn't impressive and showed nothing. Any mutt can jump outta a rig and bark at a coyote.
 
Originally Posted By: yfzduner450I'm not really impressed by this video, the dog work wasn't impressive and showed nothing. Any mutt can jump outta a rig and bark at a coyote.

Then go get you a mutt and a camera and show us how easy it is....
 
Originally Posted By: yfzduner450I'm not really impressed by this video, the dog work wasn't impressive and showed nothing. Any mutt can jump outta a rig and bark at a coyote.

We see by your little text at the bottom of your page who your buddy is , for me i will tell you this you REALLY dont need to go to calling other guys dogs a mutt. I know i love my dog almost as much as my kids.And i am sure Tony and alot of the other guys do as well.

And it all depends on how you train them and thats how he is trained so keep your 2 cents to yourself.
 
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Originally Posted By: cityslickerOriginally Posted By: yfzduner450I'm not really impressed by this video, the dog work wasn't impressive and showed nothing. Any mutt can jump outta a rig and bark at a coyote.

Then go get you a mutt and a camera and show us how easy it is....

I would wack my dog in the head if it jump out without command.
 
Originally Posted By: WSMBUCKOriginally Posted By: yfzduner450I'm not really impressed by this video, the dog work wasn't impressive and showed nothing. Any mutt can jump outta a rig and bark at a coyote.

We see by your little text at the bottom of your page who your buddy is , for me i will tell you this you REALLY dont need to go to calling other guys dogs a mutt. I know i love my dog almost as much as my kids.And i am sure Tony and alot of the other guys do as well.

And it all depends on how you train them and thats how he is trained so keep your 2 cents to yourself.

I would never call Gunner a mutt, i know what breeding he comes from and I would own one of Gunner's littermates without question.

As for the record, I said any mutt can jump outta a rig and bark at a coyote. Never saying Gunner is a mutt!!! But nice try.......

As for the little text at the Bottom, your right!!! I've hunted with him and he's showed me what a "Decoy Dog" is all about.
 
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Originally Posted By: yfzduner450Originally Posted By: cityslickerOriginally Posted By: yfzduner450I'm not really impressed by this video, the dog work wasn't impressive and showed nothing. Any mutt can jump outta a rig and bark at a coyote.

Then go get you a mutt and a camera and show us how easy it is....

I would wack my dog in the head if it jump out without command.


So why would you even make a stupid post like this not knowing how TT has him trained??????? He has a beep collar on and will come and go as Tony sends beeps, and on command also. So it about time to drop this subject.

The hunter ,guide and dog all did a great job and it was a great clip.

And as far as you hunting with Daune and he showing you how a decoy dog works that great i have heard great things about him and his dog, but like you i have set behind Gunner and seen him work as a DECOY dog a blood dog and a catch dog.
 
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I was impressed with the stick! Dang! I'd-a took 8, 10 maybe 12 swipes and broke the stick on the ground! (Me cussing, Coyote and Gunner both biting me on the leg...)
 
I for one see NOTHING wrong with the video and I wish I had a dog who was as good as Gunner. Oh and a club to the head is a lot faster than than any death that coyote gave any of its meals.SO QUIT WATCHING DISNEY CHANNEL and believing all the animals stick together and become friends.Get real.
 
Well I for one have a MAJOR problem with it... Come on Tony, you're not really seriously suggesting, a PECAN BRANCH, presumably as a replacement for a PECAN BRANCH???

You are a worker of wood, a builder of exemplary game calls, a craftsman, why not a blackthorn Irish/Scot shillelagh or kebbie, or if you insist on leaving family tradition for efficiency, a lignum vitae knobkerry?

I mean really man, what are/were you thinking? Live up to your class.
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