Long range shooting
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carvercalls
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Originally Posted By: Buster HindendIt's kinda like crack cocaine, but easier on your body, but just as hard on pocketbook
Just sayin'
Oh how true that is
Just sayin'
Oh how true that is
GhostsoftheGrass
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Ya I just got the new Nightforce ATACR put on my 6.5 Creedmoor Saturday and sighted in a little bit Sunday. She hammered the 400 yd plate. Wind was blowing cross around 10 mph. I got a crash course on mirage and took me a couple shots to find the plate but once I did, I do believe my groups were well under 5", didn't look that close nor measure, so that shows some promise.
I'm also fascinated by the long-range game. Ernie and I cut our teeth on this stuff many years ago when the Bushnell Lytespeeds 1st came out in the '80's or 90's I think it was (been awhile now), and even before that prairie dog shooting with the specialty pistols for many years in NO CO mostly. Our 1st field match was the '04 ITRC in WY, and we placed about 50th percentile just using our SP's. Later Darrell Holland and Ernie were very close to the top of the WTRC match when Ernie used his SP's again for the long-range portion.
My passion is in the math applications for downrange zeroing and rangefinding with reticles and turrets. Here's a couple Utubes I did on the concepts several years ago now. Quality is not great as I'm not much of a photographer--
Nowadays, long-range rimfire shooting is quite fascinating for me, as is long-range airgun hunting/shooting in the Philippines using Chairgun ballistics program and improvising systems for long-distance applications with limited resources there.
My passion is in the math applications for downrange zeroing and rangefinding with reticles and turrets. Here's a couple Utubes I did on the concepts several years ago now. Quality is not great as I'm not much of a photographer--
Nowadays, long-range rimfire shooting is quite fascinating for me, as is long-range airgun hunting/shooting in the Philippines using Chairgun ballistics program and improvising systems for long-distance applications with limited resources there.
SMK-1000plus
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Originally Posted By: Buster HindendIt's kinda like crack cocaine, but easier on your body, but just as hard on pocketbook
Just sayin'
That's probably the best analogy I've ever heard used to describe a serious shooter Buster!
Just sayin'
That's probably the best analogy I've ever heard used to describe a serious shooter Buster!
Buster Hindend
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Originally Posted By: SMK-1000plusOriginally Posted By: Buster HindendIt's kinda like crack cocaine, but easier on your body, but just as hard on pocketbook
Just sayin'
That's probably the best analogy I've ever heard used to describe a serious shooter Buster!
Feel free to use that at your next social gathering
Just sayin'
That's probably the best analogy I've ever heard used to describe a serious shooter Buster!
Feel free to use that at your next social gathering
WinDrummer
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Hey gang, are any of you using the plain old .22-250 for any long-range target shooting? Not the AI, or the 22 BR, but just the plain-Jane .22-250? I have an acreage (check) and an amenable neighbour (check), a source for AR500 (I'm a mech. engineer, check), and a .22-250 I would marry if it was legal, and I'm wanting to start stretching her legs beyond the 500yd I'm knocking down milk jugs at right now. I can set up targets along my fenceline at anywhere from 800-1,300yd (full quarter-section: check), and I'd love to hear the thoughts of you experienced folks who have more than a few hundred rounds down-range... *hangs head in shame*
Tim Neitzke
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Originally Posted By: Smokin250Yeah especially when you have friends like brad and tim...They are like the little devil in your ear....buy it brian, its just money brian....just think how much fun it will be brian....
Dat's funny as heck..... Might even be true .
Dat's funny as heck..... Might even be true .
Smokin250
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Originally Posted By: WinDrummerHey gang, are any of you using the plain old .22-250 for any long-range target shooting? Not the AI, or the 22 BR, but just the plain-Jane .22-250? I have an acreage (check) and an amenable neighbour (check), a source for AR500 (I'm a mech. engineer, check), and a .22-250 I would marry if it was legal, and I'm wanting to start stretching her legs beyond the 500yd I'm knocking down milk jugs at right now. I can set up targets along my fenceline at anywhere from 800-1,300yd (full quarter-section: check), and I'd love to hear the thoughts of you experienced folks who have more than a few hundred rounds down-range... *hangs head in shame*
Id say it would depend on twist and bullet. I have taken my 14twist 22-250 out to 700 with marginal success. I was running 50gr noslers BTs, which are not ideal by any means for LR shooting. But its what I had that day. Wind was my big ace kicker that day. insdie 500 I was pretty decent, but wind was bad after that.
Id say it would depend on twist and bullet. I have taken my 14twist 22-250 out to 700 with marginal success. I was running 50gr noslers BTs, which are not ideal by any means for LR shooting. But its what I had that day. Wind was my big ace kicker that day. insdie 500 I was pretty decent, but wind was bad after that.
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Actually won a LR Comp with this 22-250 once. 8T McGowen 22-250/80 A-Max, was a great shooter, just a bit too heavy for coyote hunting which was the original intent. These are a couple 1st shots here at ~400, 500, and 600ish.--no wind--
Factory Sav. Striker 12 T 22-250 60 JLK Low Drag at 425--
Can't comment on ranges beyond 600 though.
Factory Sav. Striker 12 T 22-250 60 JLK Low Drag at 425--
Can't comment on ranges beyond 600 though.
GhostsoftheGrass
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Are any of you guys taking your rifles well past the transonic barrier? How much further yardage are you going before it's a waste of time/ammo?
Buster Hindend
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Originally Posted By: GhostsoftheGrassAre any of you guys taking your rifles well past the transonic barrier? How much further yardage are you going before it's a waste of time/ammo?
I have not, but I'm having a 300 WM built and I'd like to take it past transonic
I have not, but I'm having a 300 WM built and I'd like to take it past transonic
xphunter
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Originally Posted By: GhostsoftheGrassAre any of you guys taking your rifles well past the transonic barrier? How much further yardage are you going before it's a waste of time/ammo?
I do.
Kind of depends on the bullet itself and your twist rate.
Only way to know for sure, is to try it
I do.
Kind of depends on the bullet itself and your twist rate.
Only way to know for sure, is to try it
tugboater
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Just messing around one day, I stretched my 260 to 1480yrds. There was very minimal wind, and it was real dry, so you could see your misses on the hillside.
I have a few places to shoot steel to 900yrds, but to go past that I hit public land. I will start ranging rocks, then estimate there size through mil retical and a little math. It's not as fun as steel, but it's what I've got.
I have a few places to shoot steel to 900yrds, but to go past that I hit public land. I will start ranging rocks, then estimate there size through mil retical and a little math. It's not as fun as steel, but it's what I've got.
GhostsoftheGrass
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Originally Posted By: xphunterOriginally Posted By: GhostsoftheGrassAre any of you guys taking your rifles well past the transonic barrier? How much further yardage are you going before it's a waste of time/ammo?
I do.
Kind of depends on the bullet itself and your twist rate.
Only way to know for sure, is to try it
Simple and to the point! I like it!
I do.
Kind of depends on the bullet itself and your twist rate.
Only way to know for sure, is to try it
Simple and to the point! I like it!
Originally Posted By: tugboaterI will start ranging rocks, then estimate there size through mil retical and a little math. It's not as fun as steel, but it's what I've got.
I've always believed that it's good (and rewarding) to know the math surrounding the LR shooting concepts. Nice to know there are some others doing it too.
I've always believed that it's good (and rewarding) to know the math surrounding the LR shooting concepts. Nice to know there are some others doing it too.
Originally Posted By: Buster HindendOriginally Posted By: SMK-1000plusOriginally Posted By: Buster HindendIt's kinda like crack cocaine, but easier on your body, but just as hard on pocketbook
Just sayin'
That's probably the best analogy I've ever heard used to describe a serious shooter Buster!
Feel free to use that at your next social gathering
I nearly had coffee coming out my nose when I read this. lol
What makes it so funny is how, likely, it's true!!!
I think of all the money we spend, just to make a puff on a rock somewhere way off in the distance. But, like a gunsmith/long range shooter friend once told me, "there's a lot worse ways you can spend your money".
Just sayin'
That's probably the best analogy I've ever heard used to describe a serious shooter Buster!
Feel free to use that at your next social gathering
I nearly had coffee coming out my nose when I read this. lol
What makes it so funny is how, likely, it's true!!!
I think of all the money we spend, just to make a puff on a rock somewhere way off in the distance. But, like a gunsmith/long range shooter friend once told me, "there's a lot worse ways you can spend your money".
Tim Neitzke
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I told Buster.. once when he first got spec'ing rifles " It's like crack,but you will still have your teeth !"
GhostsoftheGrass
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Another question that I was pondering on last night. Do/did any of you practice with a much cheaper round for starters? I was kinda looking at a good bull barrel 223 to load up heavy bullets with and get a feel of wind drift, mirage, and few other variables. Or be money ahead using my Creedmoor then just rebarrel it down the road. Sorry if my questions come off on the dumb side... I feel like I got a thread full of great guys going anyways so I'm not concerned.