So you think you can shoot????

For me,

Long distance shooting is jackal running around 150m. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

If he stands still the 22K Hornet is going to speak her mind. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

But hey that's the distance the 22K will go and effectively kill a jackal for me. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

One day I will have a 6mm Rem AI...

Gerhard
 
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Doesn't it look a little funny the way it fell? Something doesn't look quite right. Did he hit it in the head? I would think the body would show some reaction to the impact, it is obviously a big bore rifle carrying alot of energy. Anybody else see this?




The antelope was laying down. The only thing that could fall was his head and neck.
 
It clearly appears both shooters know what their doing and probable do it alot.

Guys like that can read the wind and no how to dope their sights.

Great shot on that antelope, nothing reckless about that if you know what your doing.
 
not sure what the yardage is that the official BPCR events operate at but I know out near mobridge there is an 800 yrd BPCR silohette range so there must be quite a contingency that can shoot that far, and father i imagine.
 
YH I know but it just looked funny to me! At 1000 yards on a bedded animal to kill it dead instantly. That's why I wondered if it was a head shot to make it go limp noodle.

If it was from behind the bedded animal which is how it looks to me, even a hit to the main torso should have shown some life after impact.

The odds of an instant death hit at 1000 yards have got to be tremendous. A head shot is my only logical explanation.
 
Looked like a high shoulder hit. That's what most of the video guys prefer. Head shots have far too great a risk of only causing gruesome wounds and don't "look nice" on camera.

High shoulder isn't the best shot if you are saving meat, but the animal won't go far with one or both shoulders smashed, it will take out at least the lungs and possibly the liver and heart too, and in a remarkably high percentage of cases it shocks the nerve nexus between the shoulders and the animal loses consciousness instantly making it appear to be DRT (and it soon is).
 
I was wandering algores interweb a year or so ago and saw a video of two guys who built a rifle and more importantly their own scope mount. They shot a prairie dog at a mile. The rifle weighed 32 pounds. I'll try and find the site again and post it.
 
nmleon, possible, I just have an internet ,high tech, digital pic. phobia after my son showed me how he could doctor photos etc on the computer.

I have to have more faith in the human race!

I wish they would have shown where they hit it etc. Like they did with the elk video. Which made me wonder why they didn't.
 
I liked the second video much better. Iron sights on a silhouette and if he made a bad judgment no harm.

The first video was sad to watch “2 hours watching an animal trying to figure out how and if the shot could be made”. Yes it does show a certain amount of irresponsibility. Several reasons why.

The series of videos this guy has shows long range shots. We know that most all videos have several retakes or missed shots that are edited. So did they say don’t try this at home or give an explanation of what and how? NO they did not.

To spend 2 hours studying a shot on an animal instead of closing the distance for a closer shot tells me a lot about this person.

I guess I and a few others are becoming dinosaurs when it comes to hunting. The new trend is long range shooting at game animals. We growing up could shoot like heck at long range but being hunters we got closer for the shot. As was stated above a lot of people sit over green fields or water holes waiting on a shot. I feel these people and the ones in the video are opportunist not hunters.

Back in the early 80’s I shot a lot of coyotes across the fields at 4 an 500 yards and enjoyed it. Once I learned how to really call coyotes I don’t have to make more than a 100 yard shot.

Now the question is not if but when he makes a bad hit and cant find the wounded animal is he going to show that? Seeing his reaction after a bad hit would tell me if he is just a shooter or a true hunter. Most true hunters I know after making a bad hit or two feel extremely bad and do everything in there power to not let it happen again.

So after a few bad hits do you think this guy will stop and get closer I think not! So that would just make him a shooter. Good shooters are like the one in the second clip “ No live animals”.


After I said all that and disagree with the guy in the first clip. I still feel he should be able to continue because it is legal and he enjoys it.
 
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That animal went down too fast after the trigger was pulled for the range he said, 1000 yrd +. I'm not buying into it.



Notice he's got at least four witnesses there. He makes his living off of teaching people to shoot long range and selling them the equipment to do it with. If there were any chicanery at all it would likely be all over the net pretty quickly and his business would be ruined. The long range shooting community just isn't big enough for something like that to go unnoticed. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

I doubt seriously he fakes it, and I doubt seriously he ever takes a shot without knowing for sure he can make it in the conditions at that time.

He uses, accurizes, and sells Weatherby's. By my (precision /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif) one elephant method, I figure it took right at 1 sec in the video from shot to impact, maybe just a little more. That's right in line with the ballistics of several of the Weatherby mags at 1000YDs. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
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"Neither one comes within light years of the 2430YD 50 cal shot reportedly taken by the sniper team in Afghanistan."


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I just gotta know where you find antelope, sitting out where you could shoot at them, during normal hunting hours and stand still for 2 hours while you get all lined up on them.
I got a whole field of them that won't stand still for fifteen minutes.
 
Spine or other central nervous system hit.

Shoulder and lungs there is always some kicking.

Still a long way out! Great shooting /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif

But, I'm with ChileRojo on this one.
 
100 years ago the fellows with Muskets thought 75 yards was WAY out there... the Optics 25 years ago were a Joke compared to today, as are almost all aspects of a precision rifle. 1000 yard shots are becoming Much more popular, and there Very hard, you have a much better chance of a clean miss. I think it's great... and to me it's better than hunting from a stand, in camo, and scent killers, and taking a 40 yard shot. But it's ALL Hunting ! and I support it all, we can't make judgements of the next mans methods without expecting ours to come underfire... ~Ace~
 
"But it's ALL Hunting ! and I support it all". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gifI don't support it, it is slob hunting. If he can't get any closer than 1000 yards, then pass up the shot. If he's trying to prove how great he is at long distances, then shoot at a non living target, like a gong or paper target, not a game animal. Does he video any of his misses, or does he never miss ?
 
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Now the question is not if but when he makes a bad hit and cant find the wounded animal is he going to show that? Seeing his reaction after a bad hit would tell me if he is just a shooter or a true hunter. Most true hunters I know after making a bad hit or two feel extremely bad and do everything in there power to not let it happen again.



This is what concerns me about long range "hunting" (if thats what you can call it, maybe not). I have a lot of respect and admiration for the guys who can make this kind of a shot; their skill is obvious. And I can appreciate the time, patience, and effort they plug into the equation before committing to the shot. But what if something goes wrong ? Are we showing an equivalent respect for the game ?

You have to admit there is a large margin for error. 1,000 yards is a long head start to have to track down a badly shot animal.
 
I wouldn't say that it's an immoral shot, but I wouldn't call that "hunting" per se. I suppose it is relative though. He obviously practices a lot at that range. It just doesn't have the fair chase appeal of getting within 300yards without being spotted.
 
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