Byron South
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Quinton,
Have you ever heard me snivleing and whinning that I can't call in a coyote even in the spring. Your point on giving them a rest is well taken. If people would put together lots of land to hunt as I have over the years they could be in fresh coyote up into May, maybe even June, if you could take the heat /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
For what it's worth. I don't hunt much after it greens up and the bugs and snakes come out, unless someone is having a problem. I don't think much about the pups starving, not that I would like it, but it sure doesn't keep me awake at night. I have looked into the eyes of a little girl that just had here pet dogs guts drug out in her yard and had to listen to the fight. I have also seen healthy cows killed while giving birth. I have seen calves trompled to death or crippled while their mother was trying to defend it from a pack of hungry coyotes. The list goes on from here. I hear it all the time that coyotes get the blame that is mis-directed. This is no doubt true, but the coyote is innocent by no means. The argument that this is just what the coyote does is a weak defense against killing them. I'm glad that your rancher buddy doesn't have coyote problems, that's great but that's not the case everywhere.
I also agree that deer populations in some parts of the country are out of control and should be thinned but that is a totally different discussion.
Your right about Texas land owners wanting to charge a tresspass fee to kill coyotes. But I pay not one red cent for my access because I get results and provide a service. Actually some landowners pay me to come kill coyotes /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. WOW !!. When I leave the killing usualy stops. Are they fools /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif.
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If I was just in it to make death I could kill many more coyotes than I do in the same time frame year after year.
I and others that don't put up fur don't kill coyotes just to make death. If that were the case most would quit /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. We hunt coyotes for the challenge and experience just as you. If you were hunting just for fur you would do much better with traps, but you too enjoy the challenge and the hunt.
As for my coyotes bringing more that 5 bucks, they just might, but 20 is the break even line for me and what I consider my time is worth. Been there, done that :[duh]:. Some of the counties I hunt have 20 dollar bounty, which is much better than skinning. I'm not rich by no means but the cost of my time and the pay back doesn't even out. Bobcats are another story /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. I admire you for putting up all your fur and if I lived in Nebraska I would probably do the same.
We have debated these things before so at some point we will just have to agree to disagree.
This is such a subjective debate that we as a group will never totaly agree, but we need to be careful trying to scratch any timelines or stipulations on each other. The weather will warm soon and there will only be a tiny portion of people out calling. This may be natures way of giving them a rest.
Byron
Have you ever heard me snivleing and whinning that I can't call in a coyote even in the spring. Your point on giving them a rest is well taken. If people would put together lots of land to hunt as I have over the years they could be in fresh coyote up into May, maybe even June, if you could take the heat /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.
For what it's worth. I don't hunt much after it greens up and the bugs and snakes come out, unless someone is having a problem. I don't think much about the pups starving, not that I would like it, but it sure doesn't keep me awake at night. I have looked into the eyes of a little girl that just had here pet dogs guts drug out in her yard and had to listen to the fight. I have also seen healthy cows killed while giving birth. I have seen calves trompled to death or crippled while their mother was trying to defend it from a pack of hungry coyotes. The list goes on from here. I hear it all the time that coyotes get the blame that is mis-directed. This is no doubt true, but the coyote is innocent by no means. The argument that this is just what the coyote does is a weak defense against killing them. I'm glad that your rancher buddy doesn't have coyote problems, that's great but that's not the case everywhere.
I also agree that deer populations in some parts of the country are out of control and should be thinned but that is a totally different discussion.
Your right about Texas land owners wanting to charge a tresspass fee to kill coyotes. But I pay not one red cent for my access because I get results and provide a service. Actually some landowners pay me to come kill coyotes /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. WOW !!. When I leave the killing usualy stops. Are they fools /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif.
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If I was just in it to make death I could kill many more coyotes than I do in the same time frame year after year.
I and others that don't put up fur don't kill coyotes just to make death. If that were the case most would quit /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif. We hunt coyotes for the challenge and experience just as you. If you were hunting just for fur you would do much better with traps, but you too enjoy the challenge and the hunt.
As for my coyotes bringing more that 5 bucks, they just might, but 20 is the break even line for me and what I consider my time is worth. Been there, done that :[duh]:. Some of the counties I hunt have 20 dollar bounty, which is much better than skinning. I'm not rich by no means but the cost of my time and the pay back doesn't even out. Bobcats are another story /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. I admire you for putting up all your fur and if I lived in Nebraska I would probably do the same.
We have debated these things before so at some point we will just have to agree to disagree.
This is such a subjective debate that we as a group will never totaly agree, but we need to be careful trying to scratch any timelines or stipulations on each other. The weather will warm soon and there will only be a tiny portion of people out calling. This may be natures way of giving them a rest.
Byron